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 THE SANDBOX Archive ~ 2000 (part 1 of 5)
JAN, 2000 ~ none
FEB, 2000 ~ #49, #50, #51, #52 
MAR, 2000 ~ #53, #54, #55, #56, #57
APR, 2000 ~ #58, #59, #60, #61
MAY, 2000 ~ #62, #63, #64
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #49 ~ February 6, 2000
THE SANDBOX Quickie 

     Starting Anew After Two Severe Disasters
                 With A Prior Computer

      "No time like the present."
               From The Lost Lover
                    ---Mrs. Manley 1663 - 1724
                

There is only one short item to share with you
 today.  But we've got to start (again) somewhere, if
 we're going to start again at all.  Don't you agree?

If any of you have something you'd like to talk
 about this week, send it in.  The next edition of The
 SANDBOX is scheduled to appear next Sunday,
 empty or full.  The SANDBOX starts where the
 ALUMNI SANDSTORM leaves off.  It starts with
 YOU Today.  You may express your OPINION about
 how things were, or are, or how they ought to be. 
 You can Persuade, Encourage, Explain.  You can
 listen to and talk about the important concerns of
 today. You can even tell a few jokes if you like. 
 It's wholly up to you. 

In any event, if you'd like to keep this thing going,
 as Mrs. Manley always used to say, there's "No
 time like the present..." to send something in!

Please send all items you'd like included in The
 SANDBOX to THE_SANDBOX@bigfoot.com

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 Today's entry is from:
 Rick Maddy (67)
 olekukahi@hotmail.com (R- Mad)
 
 RE: Linus Toland (67) - Bomb Debate

Yes, there was once a "debate" in the Sandstorm
 about the bomb mascot. The discussion got a little
 heated (no pun) and was moved into the newly
 made "SANDBOX" for such hot (no pun) topics. So,
 when you discuss the mascot in here, Linus, do not
 make that whistling sound before the impact. Wait...
 I think they went off above ground; nevertheless, no
 whistling.

 Rick Maddy (67)

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Apologies for lost mail due to computer crashes,
including address changes that were not updated
before the computer failures occured.
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #50 ~ February 12, 2000

"The years teach much 
                which the days never know."

     ----- Ralph Waldo Emerson  (1803-1882)

The SANDBOX is an online forum of ideas and
opinions expressed by the alumni of Columbia
High School, AKA Richland High School,
Richland, Washington.

This week's contributors:

            Steve Carson (58)
        Bob Mattson (64)
        Eva (Clark) Perry (49)

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Subj:   Death Penalty
From:   Steve Carson (58) 
            SteveNitro@aol.com

New Sandbox topic, the death penalty.   In Illinois
 this week Govenor Ryan put a hold on any
 scheduled executions and I found myself (to my
 surprise) agreeing with him.  I had always been in
 full agreement with the death penalty until the last
 18 months when new DNA evidence has freed
 several in Illinois who were convicted and
 sentenced to die.  It is time to review this in depth
 and perhaps come up with a different penalty, like
 hard labor and a true "without possibility of parole"
 statute.  There are situations where only the death
 penalty seems just but there are too many mistakes.

Steve Carson (58)

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Subj:   Breaching The Dams
From:   Bob Mattson (64)
            Rmat683939@aol.com

Well, being away from the tri-cities for so long, I'd
 like to know just how the dam breaching would
 affect the area as far as jobs and related economic
 issues. Most of the talking around here is sports
 fishing related and  the dwindling salmon runs. I'd
 like to hear the views from those in the area that are
 willing to express their concerns pro breach or not.

 I'll withhold further comment until I get some more
 input, Bob 64

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From: Eva (Clark) Perry (49)       
jeperry@dmi.net

Dear ones, please go to the following website and
 get educated.  Everyone has the right to choose
 whether they want to help out with this or not, but
 please at least give everyone you know the choice
 to survey the information by forwarding them this
 web page:
 
                    www.thecampaign.org

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If any of you have something you'd like to talk
 about this week, send it in!

You may express your opinion about
 how things were, or are, or how they ought to be. 
 You can persuade, encourage, explain.  You can
 listen to and talk about the important concerns of
 today. You can even add some humor if you like. 
 It's entirely up to you.  

Remember:  If what you have to say is worth
saying anywhere, it's well worth saying here!

-Al Parker (53)
Your Sandbox Moderator
See you next Sunday!
                                
Please send your ideas, opinions and
 responses to: THE_SANDBOX@bigfoot.com

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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #51 ~ February 20, 2000

    "The only reward of virtue is virtue.  The only way
     to have a friend is to be one."

             --- Ralph Waldo Emerson 1803 - 1882

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              This week's articles and comments:

                                   
                      SAVE OUR DAMS
                      Gary Behymer (64)
                    "Not just a fish issue..."

                      STOCK TRADING
                   Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)
              Funny views on ups and downs.
               Info and insight on the Internet.

                    BELIEVE IT OR NOT
                    Eva (Clark) Perry (49)
          Hillary: Was she, is she, will she be?
 
                  THE DEATH PENALTY
            Carolyn (Renaud) Carson (60)
            Responding to Steve Carson (58)

The following articles and comments will appear in
 an Extra Edition of The SANDBOX within a few days. 
                
     CHOOSING A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
                         Dick Epler (52)
              "The ... process has changed..."

              THE MORE THINGS CHANGE....
                        John Allen (66)

            MORE ABOUT DAM BREACHING
                        Mike Cram (95)
          Have you considered the silt factor?

               MORE TO TALK ABOUT
                         Al Parker (53)
              Sales Taxes and The Internet
                     Credit Card Fraud
                    
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          The SANDBOX is a Class Act, Folks. 
      Is YOUR class represented here this week?

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Subj:    Save Our Dams
From: Gary Behymer (64)
mailto:bjangary@colfax.com

This e-mail is to let you know that I am against
the removal, a much better word than the glossed
over term, "natural river draw down," of the
four Snake River dams.

This is NOT a 'fish issue'.  If it were, then wouldn't
it make sense to remove the 300+ gill nets that 
stretch across the Columbia River?  Wouldn't it 
make sense to stop the ocean harvest of fish?  
Would we not remove the 'terns' from the mouth 
of the Columbia?

Why would the removal of just 4 'fish friendly' dams
on the Snake River do any good?  These 4 dams are
all equipped with fish ladders.  How many dams in
the state of Idaho have fish ladders?  Answer. NONE.

If these four dams are removed, where do we stop?
Remove all on the Columbia River?  Remove Grand
Coulee Dam.  It DOESN'T have any fish ladders.

Replace a renewable source of power (hydroelectric)
with coal or gas fired generators?

(1) Dam breaching is an extremely risky action.
(2) I oppose EIS Alternative 4, the dam breaching
    alternative.
(3) Dam breaching WILL hurt the economy and may
    NOT help the fish.
(4) Jobs and our way of life are at stake.

Let's use some common sense rather than taxpayer
dollars to make these decisions.

I do support the Corps' John Day draw down study
conclusion that no further study is necessary.
There are few biological benefits and extremely
high economic costs.

The headline read 'Holy Smolts Batman.'  I would
rather replace that with "We have met the enemy and 
he is us." (Walt Kelly's Pogo)

Here is the 'save our dams' web site if you have 
specific questions.

http://www.saveourdams.com/

                  - Gary Behymer (64) -

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Subj:   TODAY'S STOCK MARKET  
From:   Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)
           mah@satx.net

Helium was up.
Feathers were down. 
Paper was stationary.
Fluorescent tubing was dimmed in light trading.
Knives were up sharply.
Cows steered into a bull market.
Pencils lost a few points.
Hiking equipment was trailing.
Elevators rose, while escalators continued their slow
 decline.
Weights were up in heavy trading.
Light switches were off.
Mining equipment hit rock bottom.
Diapers remained unchanged. 
Shipping lines stayed at an even keel.
The market for raisins dried up.
Coca Cola fizzled.
Caterpillar stock inched up a bit.
Sun peaked at midday.
Balloon prices were inflated.
Scott Tissue touched a new bottom.
And batteries exploded in an attempt to recharge the
 market.

Three new Bonds are being issued: 

* Lewinsky Bond:  Has no maturity
* Gore Bond:  Has no interest
* Clinton Bond:  Has no principle

If anyone is looking for a worthwhile stock Web site
 to add to their favorites, I recommend checking out
 the following site.  The information on individual
 stocks is very extensive and includes
 over-the-counter stocks, which most sites do not. 
 It gives the split history for each stock, which is
 very helpful information if you are looking for
 stocks that split frequently like I am.  It also gives a
 list of brokers and their recommendations for each
 stock, which I have found to be information that
 many sites do not offer.  The forums for each stock
 are the most active that I have found.....Raging Bull
 and Yahoo are their forum links.  Yahoo needs to
 clean up its act because their forum gets pretty
 raunchy sometimes, but does have some worthwhile
 postings.  This site seems to grab onto the latest
 press releases for each stock very quickly.  You do
 not have to register to get information off of this
 site.

investmenthouse.com

If you are interested in keeping up with the after
 hours trading activity on your NASDAQ portfolio,
 checkout the following Web site.  It is also helpful
 during trading hours because it is real-time and it
 shows how many sell orders there are compared to
 buy orders.  It is not a total indicator of a stock's
 activity, but is helpful.  You do not have to register
 to get information off of this site.

island.com

Click on Island Book and then click on the version
 that best suits your computer system.  The JAVA
 Viewer will give you continuous changes whereas
 with the HTML Viewer you must keep hitting their
 refresh option to get updates.

The following site has after hours quotes for all of
 the stock exchanges.  You do not have to register
 to get information off of this site.

etrade.com

Click on Quotes & Research and then click on after
 hours and enter stock symbol.
 
If anyone has other stock site suggestions, I would
 be interested. 

                Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)

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Subj:    Fw:   WOW--Believe It Or Not--
                         It's up to you

From:   Eva (Clark) Perry (49)

This ought to give us something to think about for
 sure.  Read this.... It'll blow your mind.

Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that
 a black man named Alex Rackley needed to die.
 Rackley was a fellow Panther suspected of
 disloyalty.  Rackley was first tied to a chair. Safely
 immobilized, his "friends" tortured him for hours
 by, among other things, pouring boiling water on
 him. When they got tired of torturing Rackley Black
 Panther member Warren Kimbro took Mr.  
 Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head.
 Rackley's body was found floating in a river about
 25 miles north of New Haven, Conn.  Maybe at this
 point you're curious as to what happened to these
 Black Panthers. Well, in 1977, that's only eight
 years later, only one of the killers was still in jail.
 The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a
 scholarship to Harvard. He later became an
 assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College.
 Isn't that something? As a 60's radical you can
 pump a bullet into someone's head, and years later,
 in the same State, you can be an assistant college
 Dean. Only in America!  Ericka Huggins was the
 lady who served the Panthers by boiling the water
 for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms.
 Huggins was elected to a California school board.
 How in the world do you think that these killers got
 off so easy?  Well, maybe it was in some part due to
 the efforts of two people who came to the defense
 of the Panthers. These two people actually went so
 far as to shut down Yale University with
 demonstrations in defense of the accused Black 
 Panthers during their trial. One of those people was
 none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee or Mr. Lan
 Lee as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't
 a member of a California school board. He is the
 head of the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights
 Division. Lee is serving in that capacity illegally, by
 the way, but that's another story -- another part of
 the Clinton saga of ignoring the rule of law.  O.K.,
 so who was the other Panther defender? Is this
 other notable Panther defender now a school board
 member? Is this other Panther apologist now an
 assistant college dean? Nope, neither. The other
 Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law
 student at Yale University at that time. She is now
 known as "The Smartest Woman in the World." She
 is none other than the unofficial Democratic
 candidate for U.S. Senate from the state of New
 York ---- our lovely First Lady, the incredible
 Hillary Rodham Clinton.

                Sent by Eva (Clark) Perry (49)

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Subj:    Death Penalty
From:    Carolyn Carson Renaud (60)
To Steve Carson (58)

I agree with your radically turned-around stance on
this issue in some cases Brother, however, I don't
believe our crippled justice system will ever figure
out a way to punish murderers appropriately.  You
say life at "hard labor"?  Yeah - sounds good but
that would violate the criminal's civil rights and the
state would have the ACLU all over them, tying up
the courts and spending Millions of $$ over each
 case.

I do believe all evidence should be considered, DNA
specifically, and, when there is compelling evidence,
the death penalty should be carried out swiftly (after
a maximum of 2 appeals if those appeals have
revealed new and meaningful evidence). 

Even if we have found a new topic to debate, I still
love you Brother -- Sis

Carolyn (Renaud) Carson ('60) 

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 That fills up this issue of The SANDBOX, folks.
 We'll look forward to seeing what YOU have to say
 in future editions!

You may express your opinion about how things
 were, or are, or how they ought to be. You can
 persuade, encourage, explain.  You can listen to,
 think about and discuss the important concerns
 of today. You can tell us about that great vacation
 you took.  You can even add some humor if you
 like. So, let's hear from you!  Send what's on your
 mind or in your heart to:

                     THE_SANDBOX@bigfoot.com

The SANDBOX is an online sharing of Ideas,
 Opinions and Personal Experience by the alumni of
 Columbia High School, also known as Richland
 High School, Richland, Washington.  

Though through the years we have scattered like
 sand throughout the world, the Col-Hi-RHS spirit
 still lives and thrives as we continue to keep in
 touch via the Internet.

Here's hoping you have a wonderful week!

Al Parker (53)
Your SANDBOX moderator.   
                              
The SANDBOX is published each Sunday with
 additional issues as sufficient submissions warrant.

If you've missed any past issues of The SANDBOX,
 you can view them all at:
http://www.bigfoot.com/~THE_SANDBOX

Copy & paste the address as one continuous unbroken
line into your browser, or just paste in:
      http://www.bigfoot.com/~richlandbombers
 then click on the Sandbox link under Sites of Interest.

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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #52 ~ February 27, 2000

   "Rara temporum felicitate ubi sentire quae
 velis et quae sentias dicere licet."

   ("These times having the rare good fortune that
 you may think what you like and say what you
 think.")
            
           --- Tacitus A.D. 55 or 56 - c. 120
                          Histories i.1

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           This week's articles and comments:
                                    
            Choosing a Presidential Candidate
                        Dick Epler (52)
                        "In my view...."

        "THE MORE THINGS CHANGE...."
                      John Allen (66)

             More About Dam Breaching
                     Mike Cram (95)
        Have you considered the silt factor?

               MORE TO TALK ABOUT
                       Al Parker (53)
            Sales Taxes and The Internet
                    Credit Card Fraud

NEXT ISSUE PREVIEW:

Subj:  STOP THE MADNESS
From:  Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)
            mah@satx.net

Subj:  Regarding Eva (Clark) Perry's (49)
 apocryphal submission:
From:   jlewis@owt.com (Jerry Lewis)

And, just possibly, some very interesting
 comments from YOU!
                    
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Choosing a Presidential Candidate
Title:   In My View
By: Dick Epler (52)
           depler@ortelco.net

Dateline: President's Day, 2000.
 
This is President's Day, and the news is all about the
 Bush-McCain primaries. And we love it. It's all
 great entertainment. Most of us like to sit back and
 score the "news" of the day the way we would a
 beauty contest or a football game. The problem,
 however, is that we disagree a lot because we don't
 know the rules of this weird game. So we tend to
 depend on the media for help. But electing a
 President is serious business, and we shouldn't have
 to depend on anyone else to help decide winners
 and losers. In particular, we shouldn't depend on
 the media who likes to view themselves as the
 fourth branch of Government.

The media is not an unbiased or disinterested party
 in this process.  Generally, the media is fairly liberal
 primarily as a result of the nation's journalism
 schools. Given that they have the power to spin an
 issue/event any number of ways, we readers need a
 way to filter the news of the day to find the stuff
 that really matters. I have some suggestions, but
 first let me give you a quick example of what I
 mean.

In last week's Average Frank column (Blue
 Mountain Eagle) the journalist castigates George
 Bush for having too much political money as if that
 were a bad thing. Eventually, he implies that Bush
 can be "Presidential" by restricting the use of his
 war chest. Strange logic, but not unlike what
 John McCain has been preaching. It's been a
 popular diversion of the media to focus on Bush's
 money, family, and prep-school background to the
 exclusion of his legislative record and issue
 definitions. They did the same thing to Steve Forbes
 and now we have one less voice for responsible
 government. Money didn't help Forbes and, in New
 Hampshire, it didn't help Bush. So why this
 diversion? The only reasonable explanation is that
 Bush's money represents a threat to both the media
 and to McCain. That and the fact that Bush has a
 better message than McCain and the money helps
 him to get his message out in spite of the media. It
 also helps Bush to defend himself against all this
 mischief in what McCain and the media likes to call
 "negative ads." But I'm not a shill for Bush or
 anyone else. People need to make up their own
 minds about the candidates. I'm more interested in
 the media's infatuation with McCain with
 comparisons to Clinton.

In many ways John McCain is our kind of guy: a war
 hero and a maverick who wants to reform
 Government. Yeah … most of us over here in Grant
 County are patriotic and are mavericks. And lord
 knows we'd like to reform Government.  
 More than that, according to Average Frank,
 McCain has the "right stuff" to win – image, party
 affiliation and lots and lots of memorable quotes.
 Too many memorable quotes according to Average
 Frank to be Presidential. Well, maybe. Actually that
 stuff doesn't bother me much (I'm not very 
 politically correct and Jesse Ventura doesn't bother
 me either). I have other concerns. Basically I worry
 that McCain's a Clinton wannabe who would be
 prone to making catastrophic mistakes while in
 office.

Given what the media's let us know about McCain
 that has to be a shocking statement. But I say that
 based on evaluating McCain's military record and
 the way he's run his Presidential campaign. McCain
 spent 22 years in the Navy and 18 years in
 Congress. So far as I can tell, neither was
 particularly noteworthy with the possible exception
 of his 5-1/2 years in a North Vietnam POW camp.
 McCain seems to agree as that's the ONLY thing
 he likes to talk about. He uses that POW thing like  
 a club to cut off discussion about things he's not
 comfortable with (abortion and character mostly).
 As he told Alan Keyes in the debates, "I've seen my
 share of killing, and I don't need YOU to lecture
 me on the value of life." Hmmm … I think he
 missed the point, but it was effective as Larry King
 promptly cut Keyes off.

I'm a Korean War Vet, USAF, five years. I like the
 idea of voting for someone who's had combat
 experience. But I've NEVER seen another vet use
 his "hero" status to trash an opponent. It raised a
 red flag, so I checked McCain's military record.
 With one exception, it looks pretty good. As many
 know, McCain is an Annapolis graduate with
 combat experience, AND a POW hero who retired
 in 1981, after 22 years, with the rank of … Captain.
 And therein lies the problem. With those
 qualifications, not achieving Flag rank is unusual.
 Especially considering that both his father and
 grandfather were Navy Admirals. How did John
 miss out? I don't have an answer (yet) but
 consider that during this same time period one of
 McCain's contemporaries entered the Army with a
 ROTC commission from CCNY, did two tours in
 Vietnam, got his first star in 1978 and went on to
 become a four star general AND Chairman of the
 Joint Chiefs eleven years later in 1989.  And this
 was a black guy ... Colin Powell. Yeah, I think I
 know who Powell is and I trust him. He's definitely
 not a Clinton wannabe.

Other vets I've talked to (McCain supporters) shrug
 off McCain's behavior by saying he's just a
 politician. I suppose, but I never remember Dole,
 Kerry, or Bush, Sr., ever pulling that stuff. The only
 politician I know who shamelessly pushes the limits
 like that is Clinton. In case you haven't been
 paying attention the last seven years, here is the
 Clinton Formula for getting elected:
~~~
First, the candidate needs to realize that to get
 elected in the new era, the TV, press and
 entertainment industry will attempt to expand their
 role as the "fourth branch of Government." To
 boost your chances, give them what they want.

Understand that the media needs to have daily
 access to a potential front-runner. Be ready with an

 "issue of the day," and be sure to include
 multiple 5-second sound bites for the evening news.

Pay attention to your dress and personal
 mannerisms. Consult with experts from the
 entertainment industry to develop just the right
 image for your particular political style.

Second, once elected, cultivate and develop a
 network of people for use in subsequent damage
 control. These need to include Federal judges and
 prosecutors as well as the bulk of the government's
 investigative machinery (FBI, CIA, etc.). Adhere to
 the following principles:

1.  Be positive. Spin all news items as an
 affirmation of your policies ignoring any
 inconsistencies. Most people are gullible with poor
 memories.

2.  When shading the truth, get your message
 out early AND OFTEN until your version gets
 accepted.

3.  Anticipate being caught in a mistruth and be
 prepared to attack immediately. Never allow
 yourself to be surprised.

4.  To put your opponent on the defensive,
 become a "victim." You can render your opponent
 powerless by making yourself look pitiful. Tears
 and lip biting are effective.

5.  When justifying any particular political
 position, do it on the basis of "helping the children"
 or some other powerless group.

6.  When engaged in political dirty tricks,
 indignantly accuse your opponent of doing the
 exact same thing.

7.  When bad news is imminent, leak the news
 first in a way most advantageous to you.

8.  Promptly reward what you want more of.
 Promptly punish what you want less of. Your
 supporters will quickly learn that you need
 "plausible deniability" at all times.

9.  Never admit to a lie or a crime. Redefine the
 language and the law as necessary. Demand the
 unqualified support of your party!

10.   If worse comes to worse, have a fall guy
 waiting who will go to prison for your crime (pay
 the going rate … it'll be worth it).

11.   Use polls to see how well your message is
 being received. Use focus groups to modify your
 message as necessary to achieve the desired result
 on the populace.

12.   Use government power to acquire and to
 control as much money as possible. Don't keep any
 more than is necessary for expenses. Spread this
 money as quickly and as widely as possible to build
 loyalty. When spreading the money, use the tax
 code only as a LAST resort, as you don't want
 people to get the idea it's their money.

13.   Know your supporters as well as your
 opponents. Both can do considerable damage. Use
 the government's investigative agencies to keep
 your "files" up to date!

14.   Use Executive Orders to accomplish what you
 can't get done through the legislative process even
 though it's unconstitutional.

15.   Never let anybody, not even your closest
 associates, know everything about your "grand
 legacy plan." Neutralize anyone who tries to define
 you and your grand plan. You will lose if you get
 defined.

16.   Realize that what you say and what you do are
 two different things. Always express a profound
 belief in the Constitution, Law and Order, virtue
 and morality; but never let any of these things get in
 the way of achieving your "grand legacy plan."

17.   Don't make big changes. Use an incremental
 approach to go a step at a time. Likely no one will
 notice where you're going until you're there.

18.   Realize that timing is critical. Be ready to use
 opportunistic disasters to pass the more difficult
 aspects of your plan. In time you'll get everything
 you want.

As McCain's famous ad against Bush said, "We
 don't want another four years of someone like
 Clinton." For McCain, that's an application of #6 in
 the list. I'm concerned that, given the chance, he'll
 run through all eighteen. He's already made a good
 start.

Of course, McCain's not the only politician
 emulating Clinton. Clinton seems to have become
 the poster child for the new political era especially
 for the democrats. But so far as I can tell, no
 Republican is quite as aggressively as McCain in
 adopting these techniques.

So what to do? Well as it turns out, it's not really
 that hard. Basically we need to pick candidates with
 a legislative record that mirrors their words.  That's
 easier for Governor types than for Congressional or
 Vice President types, as the latter necessarily have
 to implement policies not entirely of their own
 making. Still there are signs. But don't accept the
 media or the candidate's words. Instead, spend a
 few minutes on the Internet with a good
 search engine like www.metacrawler.com
   to get
 the facts. When evaluating the candidate, score
 points for a consistency of purpose and for a
 genuine respect for the Constitution. Deduct points
 if the guy is a media favorite, or is a lawyer. Now,
 isn't that simple?
--
Dick Epler
depler@ortelco.net

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Subj:      "THE MORE THINGS CHANGE...."
From:       John Allen (66)
Reply-to: miles2go@cheerful.com

A little over a year ago, I wrote a different article
 with the same title.  Here is further evidence that
 "The more things change, the more they stay the
 same."

In the summer of 1976, during the ten year reunion
 for our class, a girl who had been a good friend in
 high school, showed above average courage by
 approaching me to offer an apology she felt I was
 due.  I had forgotten in the intervening years, but
 apparently I had asked her out on a date during our
 senior year.  Despite my poor recall of that
 instance, I have every reason to believe that this
 occurred, for she possessed that rare combination
 of being intelligent, talented, very attractive AND
 tall.  As she reminded me, she had initially agreed to
 the date but then ultimately made some excuse and
 the date never occurred.   In making her apology,
 she proceeded to tell me the real reason for backing
 out was that her mother had forbade her to go out
 with me for no other reason than that I was a
 Roman Catholic.  While I would never have
 assigned any blame to her for having obeyed her
 parents, it was obvious she felt perhaps, that at 18
 years of age, this was one time she should not have
 obeyed.     The point is that this was the one and
 only time in my life to that point where I was aware
 that I had been  discriminated against for my
 religious beliefs.  My parents had told me stories of
 their early marriage in Muskogee, OK where they
 were necessarily low key regarding my mother's
 Catholicism for fear that my father might lose his
 teaching position at the local high school, and
 I certainly remember sufficient vitriol surrounding
 the 1960 presidential election when the first
 Catholic president was elected.  Nevertheless, in my
 youth and even in my adulthood, I have been under
 the secure impression that this ignorance was/is not
 widespread, primarily because it never affected me. 
 Even after having my bubble burst to some extent at
 the 10 year reunion, I pretty much considered it
 as an isolated incident.

I am now beginning to wonder if I have not simply
 been naive all these years.  In the last 3 months, a
 man whom I have admired in the past, former
 football record setter with the Seattle Seahawks and
 now Republican Congressman from Oklahoma,
 Steve Largent, had the incredible nerve (indicative
 of much deeper problems) to ask Father Timothy
 O'Brien, a Roman Catholic priest and interviewee
 for the position of Chaplain of the US House of
 Representatives, if he did not think that wearing his
 Roman collar in the House would be "divisive."
 Surely no man with the visual acuity to have caught
 as many NFL footballs as Largent did, could have
 failed to notice that the outgoing Lutheran
 chaplain, Rev. James Ford, had been wearing a
 Roman collar ever day he (Largent) had been in the
 House since his debut in 1995.  Additionally,
 House Speaker Dennis Hastert and House majority
 leader Dick Armey, in defending their choice of the
 #3 recommended candidate, have attempted to
 claim that they did not know the bi-partisan
 selection committee of nine Republicans and nine
 Democrats had placed Father O'Brien as #1 on
 the final list of three which was submitted to the
 House leadership (Hastert, Armey and Gephardt). 
 Armey has been so Clintonesque as to claim that he
 didn't even know FATHER O'Brien was a Catholic
 priest.  Articles from several reputable news sources
 (the AP, New York Times, Boston Globe, Roll
 Call, Washington Post) quoting many of the 18
 member selection committee and Armey himself,
 give lie to these preposterous claims.

Sadly, I am left to conclude that at least 62 million
 US citizens can't completely dispense with watching
 their back where religious discrimination is
 concerned.  Apparently, it is simply buried a little
 deeper.  "The more things change..... "  As I
 understand it however, the full House must vote on
 this matter of who will become Chaplain, AND
 Hastert and Armey have chosen to postpone the
 vote since they have come under some small "inside
 the beltway" fire for their questionable behavior.  I
 wonder sometimes when I hear people cry for John
 Rocker's head on a spike for what he SAID, what
 should be done with people like Largent, Hastert,
 and Armey for what they are actually DOING.   I
 have seen plenty of coverage on an ignorant cracker
 relief pitcher from Georgia, but I don't remember
 seeing even one report on CNN, ABC, NBC or
 CBS news regarding this House Chaplain situation,
 so what should be done with the appropriate
 Network Executives?  Before we start chopping
 heads, perhaps we should consider who bears the
 greater responsibility in matters of prejudice and
 discrimination?  Is it the Congress and network TV
 execs or is it "20 something" relief pitchers.

Reportedly, the vote of the full House will occur this
 month (Feb) and now, having read this little piece,
 you probably have time to further define YOUR
 character by what you do (or do not) communicate
 to your respective House Representatives.

---John Allen (Class of '66)

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Subj:   About Breaching The Dams
From:   Mike Cram (95)
            trin_mike@email.msn.com

I will admit that I do not know everything about the
 breaching of the dams.  But here is some of what
 we have discussed in my classes at WSU-TC.  From
 what I gather, the breaching of the dams, will hurt
 economy, draw down the river which will affect
 local habitat, in that, I mean by drawing down the
 level of the river, you then change the ecosystems
 of animals who live in/around the river.  A big
 reason, and one I feel is pushing this, remember this
 is purely my opinion, but the delta, mouth of the
 Columbia where you have these towns on the
 beach, are not getting the sediment deposit in the
 delta like they should. because the dams collect
 large amounts of sediment behind them that would
 usually flow downstream to the delta of the
 Columbia.  The people who first came up with the
 idea of building the dams were just thinking of
 power and jobs. They didn't think into the future or
 consider that all this sediment would build up in the
 dams. 
 Eventually the sediment is going to fill the dams and
 the dams will become huge waterfalls because all
 the sediment will render the dams useless.  It would
 be very expensive to clean all the sediment out. 
 So even though I am not for dam breaching, it is
 going to eventually have to be done.  But anyway,
 the lack of deposition of sediment in the mouth of
 the Columbia tends to lead to larger waves which
 can/will destroy the beaches and eventually the
 towns (far into the future) They are going to, in
 time, start to get  larger and larger waves which,
 unfortunately, do to political pull, because they
 have a much larger population over on the Westside
 will ultimately lead to a breaching of the dams in
 order to save the people/towns.

This is just what I have discussed in class and heard. 
 I have done no real research into it.  But just take it
 at face value.

Take Care,
Mike Cram (95)

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MORE TO TALK ABOUT:  
Sales Tax: Local Business and The Internet

Legislation is pending before the Pennsylvania
 Legislature to eliminate sales tax in the
 commonwealth to allow "brick and mortar"
 retail businesses to be more competitive with non-
 Internet marketers who are not required to collect
 sales taxes.  Of course, the legislature would then
 look for other ways to replace the revenue formerly
 raised by the sales tax.  Do you think such
 legislation would help to create a more free and
 open market place in the state where you live?
 Would it ultimately enhance overall revenue for
 your state?  How would such legislation affect the
 business you are involved in now, or businesses
 you've been involved with before? How might such
 legislation eventually benefit you as a tax payer / as
 a consumer?  Do you want the sales tax to be
 eliminated where you live?

MORE TO TALK ABOUT:
Credit Card Fraud

I have recently learned from personal experience
 that an unscrupulous person who has obtained your
 credit card number, expiration date  and mailing
 address can max out your credit card overnight by
 making mail order purchases.  Many mail order
 companies, apparently, are not at all concerned
 about whether or not the person ordering and
 receiving the merchandise has the same name
 and address as the legitimate card holder.
 Billions of dollars of fraud has been  committed in
 this way.  This is costly to all of us, whether we've
 been directly "hit" or not.  The cost of such criminal
 acts is always passed down to the legitimate
 consumer-tax payer in one form or another.  
 
The question is this: Should merchandise purchased
 by credit cards require a "pin number" for security,
 just as personal identity codes are required when
 receiving cash?

If enough responses to this question are sent to The
 SANDBOX, I'll send a compilation of your remarks
 to major credit card companies.

 If you simply wish to answer "yes" or "no" to the
 question,  "Should credit card companies require
 personal  identity codes ('pin' numbers,) for
 merchandise purchases as well as for cash?"  You
 can simply paste this paragraph into an E- mail, add
 your "yes" or "no" and send it to:
                      THE_SANDBOX@bigfoot.com

You may also wish to contact your own
 credit card issuers if you think this idea is
 important enough. This simple change in credit
 card safety could save a lot of people, including you
 and me, ethical businesses, law enforcement and
 the credit card issuers themselves, a lot of dollars
 and a lot of annoying pain!

                              - - - - -

 That's it for this issue of The SANDBOX, folks.
 What's said next is largely up to you.

You may express your opinion about how things
 were, or are, or how they ought to be. You can
 persuade, encourage, explain.  You can  listen to,
 think about and talk about the important concerns
 of  today. You can tell us about that great vacation
 you took.  You can even add some humor if you
 like. So, let's hear from you!  Send what's on your
 mind and in your heart to:

                     THE_SANDBOX@bigfoot.com

The SANDBOX is an online sharing of Ideas,
 Opinions and Personal Experience by the alumni of
 Columbia High School, also known as Richland
 High School, Richland, Washington.  

Though through the years we have scattered like
 sand throughout the world, the Col-Hi-RHS spirit
 still lives and thrives as we continue to
 communicate.

Here's hoping you have a wonderful week!

Al Parker (53)
Your SANDBOX moderator..   

                                --52--

The SANDBOX is published each Sunday with
 additional issues as sufficient submissions warrant.

If you've missed any past issues of The SANDBOX,
 you can view them all at:

http://www.bigfoot.com/~THE_SANDBOX   Copy & paste 
that as one continuous unbroken line into your browser,
or just paste in:
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #53 ~ March 5, 2000

              "It wasn't always like this?
               Perhaps it wasn't, but it is,"
              ---W.H. Auden 1907 - 1973

This week's Contributors are:

Commenting on Credit Cards and Pin Numbers:
          Mary (Kingsley) Spradlin (49)
          Maren Smyth (64)
          Sharon (Brooks) Sims (62)
          Tom Hemphill (62)
          Sherry Nugent Dupuy (62)

Sales Taxes and The Internet:
          Tom Hemphill (62)
          Norma (Loescher) Boswell (53)
           
Responding to other Member comments:
          Jerry Lewis (73) to Eva (Clark) Perry (49)
          Hugh Hinson (52) to Dick Epler (52)

Lee Harvey Oswald's Motivation?
          Vikki Kestell  (70)

Toss Them All Out!
          Patty Stordahl (72)

Stop The Madness
         Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)

The next issue of The SANDBOX will include:
         Ron Richards talking about dams.
         Marc Franco responding to Dick Epler
         Other Tricks They're using to milk 
              Your Credit Cards - Al Parker
         And as likely as not, some poignant comments
             from YOU!

                            ~ ~ ~ 

       Issue #53 of The SANDBOX Salutes:
                    The Class of 1953!

 ... and the following classes whose members led
 the way through those very special years in
 Richland just ahead of 1953!  Check the web
 pages of these classes for E-mail addresses and
 drop these people a line!
 
              1942 1943 1944 1945 1946 
              1947 1948 1949 1950 1952 

The web page of each of these classes also offer
 links to personal web pages of class members. 
 Go to:
 Http://www.bigfoot.com/~RichlandBombers
 and link to the class year of your choice!

                                  ~ ~ ~ 

Subj: Credit Card "Pin" Numbers for Merchandise Purchases.

In Issue #52 of The SANDBOX, we asked this question:

"Should credit card companies require
 personal  identity codes ('pin' numbers,) for
 merchandise purchases as well as for cash?"

Here are the responses you gave: 

From: Mary (Kingsley) Spradlin (49)
          mespradlin@texoma.net

Yes.  However if the card number was obtained
 from use over the Internet why could the pin no.
 not be obtained the same way?

[Moderator's note: Good point.  However, I was
 referring to information gained by physical theft,
 as did occur in my case, not info gained on the
 Internet.  The "culprit", a visitor to my home,
 stole at least two of my credit cards.  He knew
 my mailing address and that was all he needed,
 along with the credit card number and expiration
 dates displayed on every credit card, in order to
 order computers and auto accessories by
 telephone. One of the mail order companies I
 talked to over the phone while tracking all of
 this, expressed no concern whatsoever that the
 person  receiving the merchandise had a different
 name and address than the name and address
 assigned  to the card.  The vulnerability of "pin
 numbers" given over secure areas on Internet
 servers to legitimate vendors is, (hopefully),
 somewhat remote.]

                            ~ ~ ~ 

Subj: Should "Pin" numbers be required for
 Merchandise as well as Cash Transactions?

From:   Maren Smyth (64)

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                               ~ ~ ~

Subj:  Pin Numbers for Credit Card Puchases
From:   Sherry (Nugent) Dupuy (62)
Granshery@aol.com

I have been thinking on this very issue.

Last fall, my Visa Gold had a $4100 charge on it which
was not mine.  To make a long story short - I had used
the card the year before with NEC - it was an inhouse
theft of my credit card # and exp date.  Two computers
were ordered and sent somewhere in California.  NEC
had my # and exp date...would they not also have had
my pin number on record?

Sherry Nugent Dupuy (62)

Live and savor every moment..... this is not a dress
rehearsal!

[Moderator comment:  Probably. And a dishonest phone
order taker could use that pin number, along with other info
to make charges on your card. The beauty of pin numbers
however, is that you can change them as often as you wish, 
automatically and privately over the telephone, without the 
hassel of having to cancel your card(s).  Same thing goes 
with passwords on your Internet accounts.  It's a good idea 
to change those passwords every few months.]

                                ~ ~ ~

Subj: Should "Pin" numbers be required for
 Merchandise as well as Cash Transactions?

From:   Sharon (Brooks) Sims (62)
            sanstorm@3-cities.com

What a great idea.  Using a pin number for a
 Credit card purchase.  I would feel much safer
 using my card over the Internet too.  Yes vote.
 Thanks

                                ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Credit Card Merchandise Sales & Pin Numbers
From:   Tom Hemphill (62)
            tom@esilimited.com

YES - USE PIN NUMBERS and require venders
 to call for an authorization number

                              ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Internet Sales and Sales Tax 
From:   Tom Hemphill (62)
            tom@esilimited.com

Sales Tax: Local Business and The Internet

This will become a bigger issue in the near future
 and it has affected our community already.
 Perhaps Internet sales should include a federal
 sales tax with a certain percent being sent to
 the customer's local government.  In our small
 community, 60% of the income of our town and
 county comes from sales tax.  If local sales are
 compromised by the Internet, we run the risk of
 increased property tax and water/sewer rates. 
 Nobody will win this battle.

Tom Hemphill (62)

                               ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Check out Clinton, States Take on Net Tax

 Clinton, States Take on Net Tax  Also, online
 voting discussed by Clinton and Governors....

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34619,00.html?tw=wn20000229

                                ~ ~ ~

Subj:    Sales Taxes and The Internet
From:   Norma (Loescher) Boswell
            boswelln@oneworld.owt.com
 
 I like being able to buy computer products on the
 Internet without paying a sales tax. So far I'm not
 a big net buyer. I know states need sources of
 revenue, but buyers need to conserve their
 resources too!

                                  ~ ~ ~ 

Subj:    Regarding Eva (Clark) Perry's (49) 
             apocryphal submission
From:    Jerry Lewis (53)
             jlewis@owt.com 
 
I wish that people would check out their stories
 before they passed them on.  It might be easier
 for a person to objectively assess a story like that
 if there were credible (or any, for that matter)
 resources listed to evaluate the story.  But, like
 the bulk of the (well, it might be true, so I'll
 forward it to everyone whose e-mail address I
 have) stuff that gets slung about the Internet,
 there is no built in way to check it's veracity.

So, I went to my favorite hoax debunking site,
 the Urban Legends Reference Pages at
 www.snopes.com and did a search for "Warren
 Kimbro" and voila,  a whole, detailed analysis of
 this story, down to large sections that matched
 the text that Eva forwarded.  You can read all
 about it at
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/panthers.htm .
 And unlike the story we read in the
 Sandbox (which no doubt has been circulating all
 around the Internet), it has two links and about a
 half dozen references at the bottom of the page.

The highlights of it are that yes, Warren Kimbro
 was involved in the guy's murder (and may have
 pulled the trigger on the shot to his head), but he
 was "allowed to plead to a lesser charge (second
 degree murder) in exchange for turning state's
 evidence ... then sentenced him to life in prison
 but released him after four years".  But the stuff
 about Bill Lann Lee and Hillary Clinton is very
 suspect.   The Urban Legends page goes on to
 say it was the 12,000 Black Panthers swarming
 the campus that slowed things down (it wasn't
 actually closed).  Because Clinton and Lee were
 there, they are plastered with guilt by association.
 At the time, Lee was an undergraduate not 
 a 'radical law student' and
 Clinton's role as a first year law student was to
 'assist the ACLU to monitor the trial  for civil
 rights violations.'  They are basically damned
 because they were there, and because people
 don't like them.  (It would not be surprising if
 they did demonstrate, after all it was the late 60s).

It's too bad that more people don't take the time
 to check out this kind of screed (political or not)
 before they pass it on. I suppose those who
 believe that the Clintons, and liberals in general
 are evil, will read it and nod and cluck about how
 right they are, but it really actually does a
 disservice to their cause because it makes other
 assertions they make suspect.

I usually don't even read the Sandbox, but I just
 happened to scan this one and in my campaign to
 stop reflexive redistribution of false legends, I
 just couldn't resist responding.

Jerry Lewis (73)
                                ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Lee Harvey Oswald's Motivation?
From:   Vikki Kestell)  (70)        
            kestell@nmeri.unm.edu

I read Kathy Wheat Fife's (79) excerpt from
 her former uncle's book regarding a possible
 motivation for Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination of JFK. 

[Ed. Note: Readers can see the excerpt referred by going to: 
http://AlumniSandstorm.tripod.com/htm/2000-03-01KW.htm]

If you haven't read the passage, it does present
 a credible alternative, the possibility that Oswald
 was actually trying to  assassinate Connally
 rather than JFK, Intriguing. Y'know, because we 
 will just never know the real answer to certain
 dark events in history I sometimes just wish
 we had a way to go back and video tape certain
 scenes: Dallas, 11-22-63; the night Nicole
 Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were
 murdered; Christmas night, Boulder, CO, home
 of Jon Benet Ramsey;  etc. 

                   Vikki Kestell (70)   

  Manager, External Liaison and Development
  New Mexico Engineering Research Institute
  Albuquerque, NM

                                ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Toss Them All Out!
From:   Patty Stordahl (72)
            DZIGNRITE

All the incumbents want radical, compassionate
 reform, toss them all out. President Colin Powell
 and VP Alan Keyes, Would any one else love to
 see this ticket?  Gore is just a liar, Bradley is
 boring, Bush is strong but a mama's boy and
 McCain God bless him is an under achiever
 though many great qualities. I want a real leader,
 real compassion, real change, not dancing over
 50 white puppets.  I for one am sick of the
 incredible insecurities in the over 50 American
 European decent males in an income bracket
 higher than $150,000.00 per year who are afraid
 to vote for a Male or female minority. They are
 every bit as American and bleed red just like you
 and I and it is their turn to lead us.  I think many
 of the upper snobbery of the royal courts has
 entered our political ranks and the wealthy feel
 that they are above being lead by someone who
 is real and won't be bought.

I love Alan Keyes tax issues, Fair no kidding this
 guy is the only one with common sense.  Like he
 said, America do you want real change or are
 you just pretending you want change.  If you
 want change get on your knees, pray to your
 higher power and vote for the man who doesn't
 make you feel warm and fuzzy.

Want a real change?  Then lets put someone there
 with real strength of character and a real hard
 line stand for what our country was founded on. 
 Radical ideas.  How about Jessie Jackson and
 Alan Keyes, that ought to shake government up.

What do you think?
Patty Stordahl (72)

                              ~ ~ ~

Subj:    Stop The Madness
From:    Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)
             mah@satx.net
 
The current federal administration has set into
 motion a malignancy that could at any time affect
 any one of us.  Every day the barrage of lawsuits
 grows, shattering the fabric of this country and
 destroying our peace of mind.  We are seeing
 irresponsible lawsuits being filed by state and
 federal administrations against big businesses just
 to satisfy a political or monetary agenda.  I find
 this very disheartening because these suits have a
 ripple effect that can change the course of many
 lives.  Many people can be caught in the crossfire
 and end up losing their job security, retirement
 benefits, and investment portfolios.  The
 consumer also pays for this madness through
 higher prices. 

We have seen how the lawsuits against the
 tobacco companies have snowballed despite their
 frivolous nature.  I personally fail to see the
 rationale behind the lawsuits since cigarettes are
 a legal product and one that has carried a
 warning label since 1966.  I fail to see how
 someone can be accused of hiding something
 from you that you already know because it is a
 no-brainer.  Will lawsuits against Microsoft spin
 out of control now that the federal government
 has planted the seed?  Will this madness cause
 software prices to increase for consumers and
 life-savings to be lost for employees and
 investors?  These are real possibilities given the
 fact that we are seeing the equivalent of road
 rage in our jury boxes today, making it possible
 for plaintiffs to receive unconscionable
 settlements in lawsuits that have no merit.

Let us not forget that Vice President Al Gore
 showed us that he is into the blame game when
 he blamed the tobacco industry for his sister's
 death rather than consider her responsible for her
 own actions.  My father died from smoking 38
 years ago at the age of 57 and it has never
 entered my mind to blame anyone but him for his
 death.  Let us not forget that it was Senator John
 McCain's over-zealous Bill against the tobacco
 industry that caused the tobacco companies to
 walk away from the negotiating table.

We have seen Janet Reno and her entourage join
 hands and raise them in jubilance before our very
 eyes on TV at the prospect of bringing down
 Microsoft.  One might interrupt this display of
 exuberance to mean that capitalism is no longer
 respected or acceptable in this country.

I am concerned about my future financial security
 because my life-savings is tied to a large
 company with deep pockets.  I will not vote for
 anyone who has a record of favoring litigation
 over personal responsibility or irrational
 reparation from companies for misconduct over a
 rational resolution.  The only way to stop this
 madness is to be very sure that the person who
 we elect to the highest office in this country has
 common sense and integrity.  We need a person
 who will make ethical decisions that are in the
 best interest of the American people. 

Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)

                               ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Likes Dick Epler's Comments
From:  Hugh Hinson (52)

To: Dick Epler (52)
Dick I thought your piece on President was well written
and thought out. I agree with you. Hugh Hinson (52) 

                            ~ ~ ~
 
That's about it for this issue, Folks.  The
 SANDBOX is filled to the brim once again!
 Thanks for all of your contributions.

The next issue will feature comments from Ron
 Richards, Marc Franco, and quite possibly,
 YOU!   See you next time.

Al Parker (53)
Your SANDBOX moderator
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #54 ~ March 12, 2000

    "This above all: to thine own self be true, 
    And it must follow, as the night the day, 
    Thou canst not then be false to any man."

               ---Shakespeare's Hamlet

                              ~ ~ ~

              This Weeks's Contributors
        And What They Are Talking About:

    Mari (Leona Eckert)Leahy (65) Talks About
 Smoking, and Who's to Blame.
                        
     Marc Franco (66) discusses Dick Epler's
 Reasoning regarding presidential nominees

     Ron Richards (63) responds to Mike Cram
 about tearing down the Snake River dams..

    Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy  (65) talks to Patty
 Stordahl (72) about potential candidates.

     Patty Stordahl (72) gives her take on credit cards
   and pin numbers.

      GasOut 2000  - What do YOU think?

                                ~ ~ ~

       Issue #54 of The SANDBOX salutes:
               The Class of 1954!
 
 Check the following Internet location for Class 
 of '54 names, E-mail addresses and Personal
 Pages on the Web!  Chances are, someone there
 would like to hear from you!
                                                
     http://richlandbombers.1954.tripod.com/

     You can also add you own E-mail address
 to that page if you are a '54 grad and haven't
 already done so. You may also volunteer to take
 over maintenance of that site.

                               ~ ~ ~

From:    Mari (Leona Eckert)Leahy (65)
             Me12147@aol.com

To Mary (Ray) Henslee (61). RE: Stop the
 Madness. You say your own father died from
 smoking thirty-eight years ago, at the age of 57.
 You follow that with, it has never entered my
 mind to blame anyone but him for his death. 

It is amazing to me that you can be so positive
 about what and who caused your own father's
 death. I would imagine that he had smoked for
 what - twenty, maybe thirty years, before his
 death? Personally, I can't recall much information
 being available on the hazards of smoking during
 that era. Granted, HE chose to smoke. HE
 wasn't aware that the cigarette companies were
 deliberately adding stuff to their product to help
 addict their customers. In HIS time, probably
 75% of the adult population smoked. Many
 things may cause cancer or emphysema. Just
 read the papers any day of the week to find the
 newest culprit. Hope you cut out hot dogs when
 they claimed they could cause cancer. Milk,
 eggs, and cheese too. Granted, you are saying
 we are a society too eager to sue, to avoid
 responsibility for some of our own actions, but I
 found your example pretty cold-hearted and
 unsympathetic. There are times when companies
 need to be held accountable for their
 irresponsibility. Many have died from cancer,
 who smoked. There are many who died from
 cancer who never smoked. 
Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)
                                ~ ~ ~ 

  Marc Franco Respects Dick Epler's Reasoning.

From:   Marc Franco (66)
Reply-to: mfranco@sttl.uswest.net (Marc Franco)

As one of the liberals in this forum, I would like
 to congratulate Dick Epler on what I thought
 was an outstanding letter about the candidates. I
 mention that I am a liberal, because from other
 notes that I have seen from Dick, I have
 considered that he is a moderate conservative. 
 (If I am wrong, Dick, forgive me.)  I thought it
 was a thoughtful and well-reasoned letter,
 and in several of his points that he was warning
 to beware of, I saw myself.  I had been
 planning to vote for McCain in this primary, and
 at this late date, I probably still will - if not
 McCain, then Bradley. But Dick raised
 many good points, and I need to think about them.

   I do have one question. Dick mentioned that
 McCain might "repeat" some of Clinton's
 "catastrophic mistakes." This is actually an
 excellent point. We have probably all read about
 McCain's temper and his shooting from the hip -
 certainly the groundwork is there for later BIG
 mistakes. However, other than the Monica
 situation, what "catastrophic mistakes" are you
 referring to, Dick? Clinton has certainly made
 errors, but offhand, other than Monica, I can't
 think of other total screw ups that are much
 different than what any other president has done.

                      -Marc Franco (66)

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Subj:   About Tearing Down the Dams
From:   Ron Richards
mailto:G1A1S1@aol.com

To Mike Cram:

     Your Sandbox submission raises an interesting
 point regarding silt.  But the reduced silt load
 resulting from the deposition of the silt in the
 dam reservoirs also causes several other large
 problems.  For one, it clears up the river water to
 the point where downstream anadromous fish
 migrants become easier pray for the predator fish
 and birds.  A major problem - as evidenced by
 the relatively large salmon runs which
 corresponded to the increased silt loads in the
 lower Columbia following the eruption of Mount
 St. Helens.

 Mike, it's O.K. to be in favor of dam breaching
 even if you live in the Tri-Cities.  On February
 17, I attended the Corps hearing in Pasco to
 testify in favor of dam removal and I lived
 through it.  And there were a number of very
 impressive presentations made in favor of dam
 breaching by Hanford employees whom I assume
 are still alive.

 The opponents' comments were primarily
 based on the usual fear factor regarding loss of
 jobs.  They tried to portray breaching as
 "extreme" and something that should only be
 done as a last resort. Well folks, with the really
 extreme likelihood that the fish runs will go
 extinct if the lower Snake River dams remain in
 place, the "extreme"  thing to do is to leave the
 dams in place.  Less than 30 sockeye salmon
 returned last year, out of a run that used to
 number in the hundreds of thousands.  If
 breaching should only be done as a last resort,
 when should that resort be taken?  When there is
 only 1 sockeye salmon left?  That would be
 interesting.

 And there is no need to fear the loss of jobs.  
 Think back to when the community "leaders" in
 the Tri-Cities opposed the Hanford Cleanup
 tooth and nail in the late 70's.  You heard the
 same argument.  These "leaders" finally got
 smart and began supporting the cleanup in the
 early eighties.  They have been thriving off that
 ever since.  The same would occur with dam
 breaching - except there would be a more
 tangible result.

Ron Richards ('63)

P.S.  As I was standing in line to register to
 testify at the Corps hearing, I had a rather lively
 discussion with a rather redneck rancher from
 Benton City.  In the course of that conversation
 he made the comment that he hoped the fish
 would go extinct because he then would no
 longer be required to keep his cattle out of "his"
 creek.  Although none of the people who I heard
 testify at the hearing in opposition to dam
 breaching made that same assertion, extinction
 would be the obvious result of the delay tactics
 that they were espousing.  One must wonder
 how many of them harbor the same basic hope as
 my rancher friend from Benton City does.

                                ~ ~ ~
Subj:   Presidential Candidate Choices 
From:   Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)
            Me12147@aol.com
 
Responding to Patty Stordahl (72)

President Colin Powell and Vice President Alan
 Keyes, or Jessie Jackson and Alan Keyes???
 Please - have a heart.

Of ALL the candidates running this election year,
 there is only ONE that has lived his life in the
 service of his country. He may have a temper
 (who doesn't, occasionally?), and he may not
 have been able to accomplish all that others feel
 he should've by now. No other candidate though,
 has already given so much of himself to his
 country and is still willing and able to do much
 more. He has EARNED the right to run for
 president. More than I can say for any of the
 other candidates. 

           Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy  (65)

[At this point, Mari, (or anyone else), what do
 you think about the idea of McCain running as
 an independent?

                                ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Credit Cards & Pin Numbers
From:  Patty Stordahl (72)
    DZIGNRITE@aol.com

Regarding Pin numbers for CC purchases over
 the Internet.  All another pin number does is lulls
 us into a false sense of security.  When every day
 local high school kids can hack their way into the
 CIA & FBI files and God knows where else. 
 This does not even include the professional bad
 guys who hack into business files over the net for
 a living.  Nor will it take care of the people who
 look through your garbage to find old billing
 receipts that get carelessly tossed out.

The truth about credit card use is that if you once
 give it out even at the store you are subject to a
 dishonest employee and you are no longer safe. 
 You take your risks.

I do love the convenience of the monster in my
 wallet, but I use it as seldom as possible and
 when I do have to reserve a car or flight or hotel
 I try to get the name of the person I give my
 number to.  I cannot even bring myself to call
 into QVC on diamonique night.  Now that is a
 hard one for me.  As for pin numbers and
 banking on line or purchasing randomly, though
 convenient I vote, When at all possible, keep
 your transactions local.  I would no more put my
 personal information on the net than I would put
 it on the sendBOX.  By the way.  I still like the
 name Sand Box better.  

Keep a tight grip on your wallet and never trust
 your computer to safe guard your information. 

Now what do you all feel about taxing the
 Internet businesses?  Free non taxed E.
 Commerce?  Is this good business sense or just a
 way for huge billion dollar industries to force
 higher local and state and federal taxes on the
 little guys?  If they do not pay for the use and
 transactions, who will?  

Regarding political integrity, or political honor
 isn't that what we would call an oxymoron?

Patty Stordahl (72)

                            ~ ~ ~

Moderator's Note: "Pin" numbers, (personal
 identity numbers), do not appear on credit card
 slips that are tossed into the garbage.  A pin
 number authorization requirement absolutely and
 unequivocally would have kept a total of $3,300
 from being fraudulently charged against credit
 cards stolen from me.  One fraudulent charge
 was made at a local tire store; the other by
 telephone to a mail order computer company in a
 different state.

It is very true that some sales receipts, carelessly
 handled, will give away your full name, 16 digit
 account number and expiration date. An
 unscrupulous predator, some whom I have
 witnessed prowling through garbage cans, 
 ATM waste baskets, and automobiles, looking
 for that information, will then be able to look up
 your name and address in the phone book, if you
 are listed there.  If your listed address is the same
 as your credit card billing address, voila!, the
 criminal mind has everything needed to start
 milking your credit card at will.  They can do it
 on the telephone.  They  can do it on the
 Internet.  They can even do it in the local tire
 store, if they are clever enough and the sales
 clerk is careless enough. How do I know?  It
 happened to me.  A pin number authorization
 requirement would definitely have stopped this
 particular criminal dead in his tracks.  He would
 have had no way of knowing what that pin
 number was.  Luckily, I saw that $2000 worth of 
 computers were billed to me on my credit card
 statement before they were shipped.

The tire store "bought" the story from someone
 impersonating me over the telephone, saying I
 was giving permission for a person with a
 different name and address than me to make
 purchases against my account.  He could not
 have pulled that off if a pin number 
 authorization number had been required.

Pin number security works with cash
 disbursements and is always required by the
 banks. It will work with products and services as
 well.  It would also keep kids from "sneaking"
 their parent's credit cards as "proof" of age,
 in order to check out areas normally reserved for
 so-called "adult" tastes.  The "pin number" can
 be invisible to both vendors and banks by
 making that number electronically transmittable,
 but illegible and unprintable at any point along
 the way.

That's how passwords work.  Your Pin number
 should work the same way for you when you are
 buying merchandise just as it does when you
 are "buying" cash.  You punch the number
 yourself, into the terminal, the telephone, or
 onto your computer screen.  Regardless of what
 your pin number is, if others see it all, all they
 see is something like: "****." Banks require
 personal identity numbers in order to protect
 their own interests when they are "selling" 
 cash.  Vendors and Credit Card holders deserve
 the same kind of protection the banks have
 always insisted on reserving for themselves.   

Regarding using Sendbox@aol.com as The
 Sandbox mailbox:  The name of this forum
 continues, as always, to be The SANDBOX.
 Sendbox@aol.com was chosen as The
 SANDBOX mailbox only because another  
 person or organization was already using The
 SANDBOX name @aol.  So, you Sendbox your
 SANDBOX entries to me, and I Sendbox the
 SANDBOX back to you.  That is how
 Sendbox@aol.com became the place you send it
 to, as well as the place I send it from.
  
                               - ap -

How's this?? You can also now use the address:
sandbox@richlandbombers.com

                               ~ ~ ~

          GasOut 2000 - Will It Work?

Several have written and forwarded messages
 advocating that, as done on April 30,1999, a
 "gas out" be staged across Canada and the U.S.
 to bring the price of  gas down.  Many feel that
 was an effective tool then.  Following this
 paragraph is the "gist" of what is being
 proposed. Rather than republish that "forwarding
 effort" here, we'd be interested in comments in
 your own words as  to whether you are in favor
 of participating, and why you think it may or
 may not be effective in helping to bring down the
 rapidly escalating price of fuel at the pumps. 
 Also, what about heating oil prices? How is all of
 this affecting you,  personally, or your line of
 work?

Here's what's being proposed:

 Do not buy any gasoline from APRIL 7, 2000
 THROUGH APRIL 9, 2000.  Buy what you
 need  before the dates listed above, or after,
 but try not to buy any during the GAS OUT.

What do you think?  Can this be an affective tool?

                                 ~ ~ ~ 

Thanks to all the contributors to this issue of
The SANDBOX. Send all your comments, ideas and
personal experiences you'd like to share to:

Sendbox@aol.com
OR 
sandbox@richlandbombers.com

   Remember: What you Say is What You Get!

                                ~ 54 ~
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #55 ~ March 19, 2000 

         "Nothing ever becomes real till it is 
    experienced ~ even a proverb is no proverb 
         to you till your life has illustrated it."  
            
                --John Keats 1795 - 1821

                         
             Look Who's Talking Today:

   About The GASOUT Idea:
                   Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)
                   Jerry Lewis ('73)

   McCain as an Independent?
                   Mari (Leona Eckert)Leahy (65)

   Smoking, Death and Politics 
            Andrew Eckert (54)

   It Takes More To Be President
                   Patty Stordahl  (72)


And Coming Soon, in SANDBOX #56:
            
          "Shell Games" 
                   by John Allen (66)

         "Ludicrous Lawsuits" 
                   by Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)

         "More In Common Than Many Would Guess"
                   by Dick Epler (52)

  R2K All Class Reunion:  "Snake Dance Precautions"
                   by  Denny Damschen (62)

 And quite possibly, Something Great From You!

                             ~ ~ ~

   SANDBOX #55 Salutes: The Class of 1955
                 Check Out the Web Site:                      
      http://richlandbombers.1955.tripod.com/
                 Find E-mail addresses
                 Personal Web Page Links
                 And lots of other good stuff.  
                 Say Hello to Someone There!

                              ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Re: GASOUT
            Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)
            Me12147@aol.com

Maybe it would help but I doubt it. What I
 personally feel would be more effective is for at
 least a month, buy only enough gas at one time
 to get you where you need to go for a day or
 two at a time. During that month, share rides as
 much as possible and limit leisure driving to a
 minimum. Gas companies would be beside
 themselves by the end of that month--I think! 

         Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)

                               ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Gas Out
From:   Jerry Lewis ('73)
            jlewis@owt.com

You wonder, can the 'gas-out' be an effective
 tool? In short, my answer is NO.  For a variety
 of reasons, this is a misguided (I was going to
 say idiotic, but that might be too strong) effort. 
 Going to my favorite source for myth debunking,
 the Urban Legend website, I quote "the 'gas
 out' is an ineffectual, misguided effort that hurts
 the wrong people and does nothing to change
 gasoline prices, this time backed by news reports
 about last year's non-event."

To read all the gory details:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/gasout.htm 

                  Jerry Lewis ('73)
                  jlewis@owt.com                              
                  http://www.owt.com/users/jlewis/

                            ~ ~ ~
 
Subj:   McCain As An Independent?
From:   Mari (Leona Eckert)Leahy (65)                              
            Me12147@aol.com
 
McCain running as an Independent? He has
 already said no, but I wish he would say yes.
 Yes, I would vote for him if he did. Third parties
 don't stand much of a chance but maybe McCain
 could change that. Whatever he decides to do,
 my own opinion is that we owe him, if nothing
 else, a debt of gratitude for all he has already
 given to this country. Viva la America! 
 
          Mari (Leona Eckert)Leahy (65) 

                              ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Smoking, Death and Politics 
From:   Andrew Eckert (54)
        ECKERT1108@aol.com

In reading Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65) two
 contributions, the first on smoking and death, I
 was unable to determine any direction or
 conclusions that she was making.  Certainly hope
 she wasn't defending the tobacco company's, but
 if she was, I'M not surprised many smokers
 make all the excuses.

She also spoke on McCain for president and that
 would be my wish as well. The Reform Party has
 been in turmoil and at one time not along ago
 there president/Chairman was asked if he
 thought the party could or would consider
 nominating McCain and his reply reportedly was
 yes even if he had been nominated by the
 Republicans.  Maybe he will come in late and do
 the same as Jessie Ventura did.  About the only
 ticket that I think could beat him if he did this
 would be the Clinton/Gore or said more
 properly, the Gore/Hillary Clinton ticket.  As we
 know the Clinton's are very clever people and to
 run Hillary on the ticket it was necessary to make
 her a national politician.  This maybe is what's
 going on in NY.  The house in Westchester
 County is just what Bill needed to be close to his
 new job with his golfing buddy and partner,
 some job, eight million a year for playing golf
 and making phone calls, with bonus's of another
 two million, as reported in George Magazine. So
 Hillary will be available to run with Al if a
 woman is needed on the ticket, she certainly
 would trump Lizzy Dole.  If this scenario was to
 play out what about that senate seat in NY?  I
 see two candidates waiting, that either one could
 likely win it fairly easily, Mario Coumo or Rubin
 who is back in NYC.  This year certainly has the
 possibilities of being very exciting.  This Bush W
 is unbelievably dumb, once again the hard right
 of the party is steering straight towards a cliff. 
 Robertson, Falwell, and Reed are calling all the
 shots as they did four years ago, maybe after this
 next election there will be another party and we
 the people will have more input in selecting
 candidates.

                    Andrew Eckert (54) 

                                 ~ ~ ~

Subj:   It Takes More To Be President
From:   Patty Stordahl  (72)
        DZIGNRITE@aol.com

Responding to Ms. Leahy.

No one is questioning moccasins sacrifices but
 being president takes more than being a POW
 from any war. It takes a skilled articulate savvy
 leader, a political manipulator to turn other
 aggressive leaders in a way that is favorable to
 the desired results.  It has nothing to do with
 service to ones country in a military fashion.
 It has to do with what image they portray to the
 foreign countries as well as to their own.
 Some may not like Clinton's morals but he is a
 hell of a politician.  Some may even fear an
 Afro-American leading our country because they
 are different.  I remember when my grandmother
 told me not to go to a minority or woman Dr.
 Why, because they were different.  She said they
 were not as clean, Where did she get that one? 
 Women would only make good nurses? Get real.
 This is progressive America.  Prior to her death
 in ‘87 she had eaten her words many times.  I
 personally find it hard to go to a male Dr. now.

Question raised in my mind was: If you are in the
 military for 20 years and only rise to rank of
 Captain you lack leadership skills somewhere. 
 Whether it is in actual follow through during the
 tough time or where I can't say but somewhere
 he was deemed qualified to lead the few- not
 qualified to lead the masses. A President must
 lead the masses.

I respectfully disagree with your feelings that he
 has more right to run.  I don't think that one
 person has more right to run for office than
 another.  Please try to remember this is
 AMERICA the land of opportunity.  Look at the
 reaction temper McCain displayed at the loss of
 his nomination.  Would you want that temper
 erupting in a heated international political forum? 
 I would certainly hope not.
Did you watch the way he blew up after he found
 out the republican nomination went to Bush?  He
 was way out of line with people just doing their
 job.  I do agree a temper at times is a good thing. 
 But a temper out of control or unchecked for
 even a minute can devastate all progress made.
 I was very involved with being a McCain
 supporter in the beginning.  I joined his web sight
 to the troops group.  But I also got involved
 with all the other candidates as I wanted to make
 a solid decision.  I got in chat rooms with vets as
 well as young people and old alike.  Being
 politically informed to the best of my ability is a
 need for me as I am sure it is for you. I have a
 hard time just rooting for the cute one or the
 underdog just because he appears to have a
 charismatic personality.  I have learned though
 the years that not always but usually someone
 who shows all his cards to soon is a very poor
 long term strategist.  Unfortunately this proved
 to be true in McCain's tactics even by his own
 camp's admission.  Luke Skywalker image was
 way to immature for me and beat to death. I
 switched after much informed conversation and
 political review.  I personally loved the way Alan
 Keys handled himself and how he openly was
 sick of the candidate bashing debates.  He stuck
 to real issues. He gave hard to swallow but true
 solutions.  Why would he be so far fetched to be
 a real leader?  He was the ONLY one to say hard
 things that would be good for the country as a
 whole.  He is the only one who did not have to
 apologize for any of his stands or actions.
 I am not afraid of change nor a Minority
 president. His stand was strong.  No loop hole
 flat tax. It is time all free loading Americans got
 out of their special interest hand out lines and
 got a job and worked and paid taxes and supported 
 their own kids and country.  Dead beat parents-
 take care of your own children.  Stop running away.
 If you supported your own kids there would be no
 tax supported Child support agencies.  
 Tax supported welfare lines would be smaller.
 You are not keeping your money from an ill
 spending father or mother you are keeping your
 money away from your child.  Be a true
 American belly up to the bar in tough times it is
 our duty to teach our own children responsibility. 
 Keyes message shoulder the blame for your own
 actions.  Stop blaming others for what you lack. 
 Revive your faith (what ever it may be) and roll
 up your own sleeves and get back to what made
 America great.  The family and God.

I hear White moms say if my son was black he
 could get a grant.  If my kid was a minority he
 could get a better opportunity.  Why do white
 girls have to date black guys, I have heard young
 white underachievers say this also!  IT MAKES
 ME SICK.  The remark you made about Jackson
 & Keyes- Please, what was that all about?
 What do you think If Jackson and Keyes got in
 office all whites would be shackled as their
 ancestors were by Whites many years ago?
 I feel if we really want change we need to be
 honest and not just vote for the pretty face, race,
 or the party nomination, We should vote for
 someone who is strong in leadership can speak
 to the masses with common sense, can also wield
 a big stick when necessary and is above
 castrating his or her opponent when given 30
 minutes of tax paid air time. Personally I don't
 care if you are green. If you are right for the job
 you are right for the job. After I read and
 listened to some of the vets who actually said they
 were POW's with McCain and their feelings
 regarding him and his abilities under pressure is
 what really opened my eyes. McCain in my
 educated, researched opinion, though a
 tremendous, deeply convicted man was found
 lacking in presidential progressive leadership
 skills I feel that are needed to run the country I
 live in. Of course, as you know, opinions are like
 belly buttons, Every one has one and they all
 stink. In the end we all have to live with our own
 decisions.

Thank you for your comments regarding my
 entry. And though I am also saddened by GORE
 getting the nomination. Was there ever a doubt?

                      patty stordahl (72) 

                               ~ ~ ~

Thanks for all your contributions, everyone.
  Once again, The SANDBOX has been filled to
 the brim.  Tune in again next time, and see what
 Mary (Ray) Henslee (61) has to say about
 ludicrous lawsuits and "hear" what John
 Allen ('66) has to say about Shell Games, Dick
 Epler's (52) conversation with Marc Franco and Denny
 Damschen's (62) snake dance precaustion advice.
 
 
 "Smile, because when you least expect it,
 something in YOUR own heart and mind
 may compel YOU, too, to send something to:

                       The SANDBOX
                sandbox@richlandbombers.com

See you next time!  

                               ~ 55 ~
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #56 ~ March 27, 2000 

"I love life. I wake up everyday excited to wake
 up. You want to know what I think? I think you
 have to stop feeling sorry for yourself, and start
 thanking the day instead of scowling at it."

                      -- Goldie Hawn --
                
                                 ~
                             
            ~ Look Who's Talking Today ~

  "More In Common Than Many Would Guess"
                      By Dick Epler (52)

                Be Careful at the Y2K All 
               Class Reunion Snake Dance
                 By Denny Damschen (62)
       
                           Shell Games
                       by John Allen (66)

                     Ludicrous Lawsuits 
                by Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)

                                  ~

    SANDBOX #56  Salutes: The Class of 1956
                 Check Out the Web Site:                      
http://richlandbombers.1956.tripod.com/
                   Find E-Mail addresses
                 Personal Web Page Links
                And lots of other good stuff.  
               Say Hello to Someone There!

                                    ~

Moderator's Notes:

    Well, people, looks like the year 2000 is
 going to be a very busy year for YOUR SANDBOX,
 as your contributions and the year's news both
 continue to accelerate!  It would appear that one
 SANDBOX per week just "ain't gonna cut it."
 Today's news, which you've been commenting
 on regularly, can get old very fast and you
 deserve to have your poignant topical comments
 not appear outdated.  There are a bunch of you
 waiting "in the wings," already, with articles
 about saving the Snake River salmon as well as
 a lot of other stuff.  As long as this great
 enthusiasm to express your own ideas, opinions
 and personal experience in this continues, I will try 
 to get Your Sandbox issues out more  frequently.
 It's always great hearing from each of you about 
 things that are important to you!

                         - Al Parker -

And Now For This Issues Entries:

More In Common Than Many Would Guess
From: Dick Epler (52)

For Marc Franco (66)

Thanks, Marc, for your comments
 expressed in Issue #54. I've
 often  thought that we two
 probably have more in common
 than many would guess. 

However, I need to correct the
 impression that I was worried   
that(in words you mistakenly
 ascribed to me) "McCain might
 ‘repeat' some of Clinton's
 ‘catastrophic   mistakes'." Not
 true. Rather I worry that McCain
 is prone to making catastrophic
 mistakes while avoiding all
 responsibility by the use of
 Clintonian techniques," which I
 then went on to enumerate in
 issue #53.

Regarding Clinton himself, I
 agree with you that except for
 Monica, Clinton's genius has
 always been the avoidance of
 responsibility for ANY mistakes;
 by design, he ALWAYS leaves
 himself an out. Even with
 Monica, he might have gotten
 away with a perjureous lie
 except for DNA testing of
 Monica's dress. Once out of
 office, of course, he may yet be
 prosecuted. Nevertheless, the
 democrats are right. As bad as
 perjury is, the incident was not
 a catastrophic mistake on the
 national level. But McCain is
 NOT Bill Clinton. With McCain, I
 DO worry about CATASTROPHIC
 mistakes being made at the
 national level.

My main concern these days is
 always the possibility that the
 country would consider electing
 a person (either republican or
 democrat) whose main
 qualification to the Presidency
 is the ability to Clintonize bad outcomes. 
 In the case of McCain,
 both his military and political
 records have been littered with
 disasters and bad decisions, but
 the media seems overly
 fascinated with his Clintonesque
 strategy while ignoring his lack
 of substance.

McCain's gone now (almost), but I
 think we all need to learn from
 this experience. We can't depend
 on the media. We need to do our
 own research. For Richland
 Bombers and other intelligent
 computer users, the Internet is
 the best place to start.
 
                    ~
                        
Subject: Snake Dance
From: Denny Damschen (62) 
mailto:Denny.Damschen@pnl.gov

Take Precautions With Physical Activity (R2K
 Snake Dance)

If you're single and in your mind "getting a little
 action" means you don't need to take a laxative
 or "getting lucky" means you find your car in the
 parking lot then you're getting a little older and
 you should slow down when you participate in
 the R2K Snake Dance.

If you're a married male and your wife gives up
 sex for Lent and you don't know about it until
 the 4th of July or if you're a married woman and
 you don't care where your spouse goes, just as
 long as you don't have to go along, you're
 getting older and you should take your time
 when Snake Dancing.

We don't want anyone to get hurt so if you have
 stopped growing at both ends and have begun
 growing in the middle or if it takes longer to rest
 than to get tired, take it easy Snake Dancing.

If your mind is slipping or your memory lapsing
 or...uh...  I forget the rest....

       Ideas - Opinion - Personal Experience

Subj:    SHELL GAME
From:    John Allen ('66)
Reply-to:  miles2go@cheerful.com
Wed. 15 Mar '00

Last Sunday, Wayne LaPierre and Charleton
 Heston of the NRA offended the delicate
 sensibilities of William Jefferson Clinton by
 implying that he was a liar and more directly that
 he was willing to accept a certain level of
 violence in this country in order to promote his
 agenda on the subject of gun control.  The very
 next day, El Presidente was, predictably,  front
 and center with his "hurt and indignant" act.  Mr.
 Heston's statement, contained within the body of
 a national NRA advertisement, will be
 considered by many to be extreme.  "How can
 Moses call the President of the United States a
 liar on national TV?" people will ask.  The more
 appropriate and obvious question is, "How can
 he not?"  Of COURSE Clinton is a liar.  He has
 been found to be one by a Federal District Court
 Judge (Susan Webber Wright) and has paid a
 $93,000 fine for having lied under oath in her
 courtroom.  Additionally, there is a better than
 even chance that he will be disbarred in the
 State of Arkansas for having lied in federal court. 
 It's just NOT a question any more.  The man is in
 his mid fifties and his adult character was carved
 in stone long ago.  For those of you who like to
 delude yourselves with the theory of "divisible
 integrity" (which basically says that some public
 officials will lie about certain things but never in
 their official capacity), let me suggest to you that
 there is absolutely no evidence to support the
 theory.  The simple truth is that liars lie.  It's
 what they DO, and they quickly arrive at a  point
 where it becomes reflexive, as much as
 considered, behavior.  "Divisible integrity" is no
 more a possibility than being a little bit pregnant.
 The really aggravating, and more importantly,
 TRULY FATIGUING problem with Clinton is
 not just that he is a liar, but that he is such a
 GREAT liar.  Every time he opens his mouth to
 say anything of substance (gun control legislation
 included), we have to stop and slap ourselves to
 be reminded that there is no better than a 50/50
 chance that what he is saying is true.  No matter
 how convincing he sounds, we must to look at
 EVERY SINGLE WORD to see where he might
 be shading, bending, or completely dispensing
 with the truth.  I don't know about all of you,
 but I'm overly tired with always having to
 wonder "what the meaning of is, is."   Wouldn't
 it be more simple in the future to elect someone
 who does not already have a light-year long
 track record of deceit?  In any event, Moses is
 right, and don't you dare forget it.

Where Mr. LaPierre's allegation is concerned, the
 truth is not easily arrived at, but although his
 suggestion about a level of violence being
 acceptable to the administration is extreme, it is
 neither ill-considered nor indefensible.  Evidence
 of Clinton's Machiavellian propensities is hardly
 in short supply.  In the last three years in this
 country, over 6000 students have been caught
 inside our schools in the possession of firearms. 
 Only 13 (thirteen) were federally prosecuted
 and NO parents; WHY?   Further, the very act of
 a felon attempting to buy a gun is itself a felony. 
 But of the over 250,000 felons the Clinton
 Administration likes to brag about having
 prevented from legally buying a gun, none of
 them have been prosecuted either; WHY?   Do
 we really believe that having been denied the
 legal purchase of a firearm and left on the street,
 these felons will not simply obtain one illegally?  
 Finally, Project Exile which emerged in the state
 of Virginia and which has been promoted by the
 NRA and prosecutors throughout the country,
 would automatically put a felon in the slammer
 for five years if that felon is caught in possession
 of a firearm.  WHY is it that the Clinton Justice
 Department has resisted all attempts to introduce
 this kind of "result getting" legislation on a 
 national basis?   If the Clinton Administration is
 unwilling to put people in jail for their felonious
 behavior, there has to be some reason.  If it
 is not that they are willing to accept a certain
 level of violence to put more gun control
 legislation on the books, then WHAT IS THE

 REASON?   Could it be that passing laws is
 relatively easy, whereas ENFORCING them is
 messy (real people actually going to real jail). 
 This administration has never been big on law
 enforcement in general (it's kind of a "sixties"
 thing), in part because if they were, there is no
 telling how many of THEM would be in jail right
 now for Campaign Finance law violations among
 other crimes.  Simply passing new gun laws
 primarily accomplishes one thing:  It gives voters
 the false sense that something is actually being
 done so that "credit" (read that "votes")
 can be collected.  But however much (and
 however temporarily) it makes us "feel good" to
 pass new gun legislation, when it is rarely
 enforced, it does nothing to solve our problem. 
 In many cases, no amount of legislation will ever
 make a difference.  Far too many in our society
 have come to the false hope that somehow we
 can eventually legislate a perfect world where
 nothing bad ever happens.  That government is
 the answer to all our problems, is the implicit and
 unbelievably arrogant snake oil which primarily
 liberal law makers are prone to pedaling.  That
 snake oil doesn't exist, and some day we   
 "boomers" must finally accept the wisdom our
 parents possessed; that the actual exercise of
 individual responsibility will always surpass the
 legislative efforts of vote hungry politicians who
 are all too eager to please, to promise and to
 deceive.

Certainly at the very least, the Clinton 
 Administration has some serious "splaining to
 do" about it's paralysis in the area of enforcement
 of current gun laws.  It is hardly without the
 realm of possibility that the only gun law this
 Administration wants to enforce is the one
 currently IN force in Great Britain; confiscation. 
 Unfortunately for the American people, getting
 tough on   true offenders of current law
 certainly does nothing to promote that end.

Finally, on a different note, I would like to say
 that in the past, and to my discredit, I have
 allowed myself to become involved in name
 calling contests with other contributors to the
 Sandbox.  Including my last submission, I will no
 longer be mentioning the names of any other
 contributors, and I am hoping that others will see
 their way clear to follow that example.  I'm a
 good enough writer to express my opinion on
 issues without becoming embroiled in juvenile
 personal disputes, and if you graduated from the
 RHS gene pool, you are capable of the same.

---John Allen ('66)

                                        ~

Subj:   Ludicrous Lawsuits
From:  Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)
           mah@satx.net

I felt compelled to write the commentary that I
 wrote a few weeks ago after reading a news
 release that came out stating that the Attorney
 General of New York was considering a lawsuit
 against the General Electric Company, which I
 thought to be ludicrous.  I decided that we had
 all better try in our own way to make a
 difference before the lawsuit mentality that is so
 pervasive in our society today spins any further
 out of control. 

It saddens me to find out that someone would
 perceive me as unsympathetic to the suffering of
 smokers, especially my own father's suffering,
 just because I choose not to blame the tobacco
 industry for my father's death.  I have just tried
 to look at the situation with the tobacco industry
 objectively and not allow myself to be conned
 into being a blamer by those with an agenda. 
 Although smoking was not as cognizant a choice
 before the warning label, there was some
 knowledge of its adverse effects and definitely
 concrete evidence that cigarettes were addictive. 
 The warning label does not seem to deter a lot of
 people, making it quite evident that smoking for
 many people was and always will be a personal
 choice based on desire, not logic or knowledge.

I think that there is much hypocrisy to be found
 surrounding the tobacco issue, which is why I
 question the legitimacy of the lawsuits being
 waged by state and federal administrations.  In
 1966 the government mandated that a warning
 label be placed on cigarette packs.  The
 government could have attempted to ban them at
 that time, but chose not to.  Now after all of
 these years, the government wants billions of
 dollars from the tobacco companies as reparation
 to help pay for tobacco related illnesses. 
 Shouldn't the government consider itself equally
 to blame since it chose and still chooses to keep
 cigarettes a legal product?  Many advocate
 punishing big tobacco for selling their evil weed,
 but I am yet to hear one elected official or citizen
 suggest that cigarettes should be banned.  Big
 tobacco represents big tax revenues and there
 lies the one and only reason why they are not
 banned, which is hypocrisy at its worst.  The
 tobacco growers have always known that the
 product that they were growing was additive and
 harmful, yet the government continues to
 subsidize them rather than sue them.  Obviously
 it has been known since the first cigarette was
 inhaled by a human being that they are addictive,
 unless in the early days people just did not know
 why they were being motivated to jump on their
 horse and make tracks to the general store for
 some smokes.  It is the nicotine in tobacco that
 makes cigarettes addictive and harmful. 
 Tobacco is hardly a secret ingredient of
 cigarettes.

A director of a restaurant association wrote a
 letter to the local newspaper recently addressing
 the problem of lawsuits.  Obesity is on the rise
 and there are those who are now blaming
 restaurants for offering foods that cause weight
 gain in tempting large portions.  He has observed
 that the same legal strategies used in class-action
 suits against tobacco companies and gun
 manufacturers are now being talked about as a
 way of addressing obesity related health
 problems.  He feels that as a society, we are
 courting disaster if we continue along this path. 
 I totally agree and I feel that any elected official
 who favors litigation over personal responsibility
 or seeks unreasonable reparation from companies
 for misconduct over a rational resolution sets an
 example that makes any successful individual or
 business fair game for predators.  

I am concerned that if we as a society continue to
 condone the blame game, we will in the end reap
 what we sow......a generation of people who do
 not feel that they should be held responsible for
 their actions because they are only giving in to
 the temptations put before them by others.  

Mary (Ray) Henslee (61)

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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #57 ~ March 30, 2000

  "It wasn't the wine," murmured Mr. Snodgrass,
         in a broken voice, "It was the salmon."
             Charles Dickens 1812 - 1870
                       Pickwick Papers
                
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            ~ Look Who's Talking Today ~

 Some of the New  Subscribers Checking in:
                 Anna M. Durbin '69
                 Jim Rice '75
                 John  Yesberger '70
                 Dtrent1957@aol.com
                 Alan Porter '67
                      
"Just a couple comments, please."
                 Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)

"McCain!"
                 Steve Carson '58

Tearing Down The Dams (Or Not)
                 Gary Behymer '64
                 Ron Richards '63
                 Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy '65
                 Sandra Summers '76
                               
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    SANDBOX #57  Salutes: The Class of 1957
                 Check Out the Web Site:                      
http://richlandbombers.1957.tripod.com/
                   Find E-Mail addresses
                 Personal Web Page Links
              And lots of other good stuff.  
              Say Hello to Someone There!

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Subj.:  Subscribe
From:   Anna Durbin (69)
golddurb@libertynet.org
To: sandbox@richlandbombers.com

Hi.  I would like to play in the Sandbox, too.
  Please add my address to your list.

Your Richland Bomber family welcomes you,
 Anna.  Climb right in!

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From: Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)
Me12147@aol.com

Subj:  Just a couple comments, please.

Regarding the comments from Andrew Eckert (54)
 stating he couldn't quite figure out if I was
 making excuses for the tobacco companies or
 not.  Because I AM a smoker that wouldn't
 surprise him if I was because most smokers do. I
 was NOT and I am not willing to make excuses
 for their actions. Don't think there is an excuse
 that would be truly legitimate!

As to Patty Stordahl asking, "What is that," in
 regard to my saying "oh please" to a
 Jackson/Keyes ticket--No thought of race
 entered my mind. It was totally my response to
 the men themselves and the thought of the two
 of them trying to govern this country! Sorry but
 just can't "picture" that as a happening thing.

To the remarks about McCains' temper. Show me
 just ONE person who has NEVER lost their cool
 for a few moments when they are passionate
 about something or someone and I'll show you a
 person who doesn't care passionately enough! As
 to his remarks concerning the "reverends," all I
 can say is, listen or read the WHOLE
 conversation rather then one sentence from it.

You all have a good day now. 

         Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy (65)

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Subj:   McCain!
From:   Steve Carson 58
SteveNitro@aol.com

McCain!  Through the first few primaries I kept
 an open mind and was sort of attracted to his
 maverick approach.  Then as I observed him in
 South Carolina and Michigan, lying with a
 straight face and his comments in his news
 conferences, I lost any traces of support.  I think
 we would go from having a President without
 any integrity to one who would throw temper
 tantrums and hold his breath if he didn't get his
 way.

On the "hero" status, he did show character by
 refusing to accept the special privilege to get a
 ticket out and, I'm sure that those years were
 pure hell.  AND he was not the only one there.  I
 has become my opinion that, lacking any
 outstanding  achievement in the military, I will
 respect his service but count him among a large
 number of heros who were POWs.

When you look at his leadership style, which he
 kept hidden for the most part during the early
 campaign, you have to wonder why the rest of
 his fellow Senators just don't like working with
 him.  His near tantrums on the campaign began
 to look like whining and his mantra of no tax
 cuts for the "rich (which has  been defined as
 making over $36,000 by the Clinton gang) does
 not resonate in my world.

McCain for Veep............No.   
McCain for Defense Secretary....You Bet.

Steve Carson 58
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From:   jrice@sojourners.com (Jim Rice) ('75)
Reply-to: jrice@sojourners.com
To: sandbox@richlandbombers.com

Please subscribe me.

Consider yourself subscribed, Jim.  Jump right in!

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Subj:    'Save Northwest Salmon'
             Gary Behymer ('64)
Reply-to:   bjangary@colfax.com

Sign the Petition to 'Save Northwest Salmon'.

To save Northwest salmon, four large obstacles
 must be removed...and they aren't dams.

There are at least four big obstacles to saving
 Northwest salmon.  But, contrary to recent
 claims, they aren't dams. They're mind-sets-ways
 of thinking that have led the region down false
 paths and brought about mistakes that have 
 been equally costly for people and salmon.

The Northwest needs a reasonable, balanced and
 fair salmon solution.  

Go to:
http://www.e-thepeople.com/affiliates/national/index.cfm?PC=PETFV1&PETID=355826

Click on the above URL. [Or paste this address
 into your browser.]  If  does NOT all fit on one
 line then go to:

http://www.e-thepeople.com
...then to 'environment' to find 'Save Northwest
 Salmon'.

Gary Behymer
Class of 1964
                          
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From:   johnyes@excite.com (john yes)
To: sandbox@richlandbombers.com

Hi.  I would like to be put on the subscription list
 for The Sandbox. Thanks.

Welcome, John.  Lots of room for everyone here.

                              ~ ~ ~

Just a reminder to some of our newer readers, 
 before posting the following item.  The Alumni
 SANDSTORM is an online publication about
 memories of our growing up in Richland. The
 SANDBOX, which you are reading now, is
 about Current Ideas, Opinion and Personal
 Experience.  From time to time readers have
 shared with us their feelings about where one
 thing or another ought to go, and we are always
 listening.  In any case, both publications are
 intended for your enjoyment, enlightenment and
 most especially, your personal participation. -ap

Subj:   Re: Snake River Salmon
From:   vegas68@cheerful.com (vegas68)
To: G1A1S1@aol.com

Gary didn't make any "statement" in the
 Sandstorm... he only posted a URL.... I
 didn't even go to the URL.

Bomber cheers,
Maren
This was in response to:
Ron Richards ('63)
G1A1S1@aol.com who wrote:

To: Gary Behymer (64):

I appreciate the effort that you and Maren make
 in producing the Alumni Sandstorm.  I also
 appreciate your right to take a political stand on
 an issue as important as saving the Snake River
 salmon from extinction.  And I  assume, from
 your message posted in the Alumni Sandstorm on
 March 26 regarding that issue, that your policy of
 excluding political messages from the Alumni
 Sandstorm has been abandoned - at least to allow
 rebuttals to the  message found at the Internet site
 to which we were referred by your message.

In a nutshell, Gary, we do need to avoid this "Us
 vs. Them mentality" that your Internet site
 suggests.  But it is extreme hypocrisy for the
 people at your Internet site to plead for the
 elevation of politics over science when it is they
 who ignore what the vast majority of scientists are
 telling us.

Your Internet site's reference to studies that "show
 increased survival under currnet (sic) river
 conditions" demonstrates just how blind to
 science they are.  What real science tells us is that
 the current conditions caused by the dams
 devastate salmon in a multitude of ways,
 including, but in no way limited to:

  (a)  the elimination of major spawning grounds;

  (b)  the direct killing of downstream migrants in turbines;

  (c)  the indirect killing of downstream migrants
 by the elimination of suspended silt in the  water
 column (which causes increased consumption by
 predator fish and birds);

  (d)  the indirect killing of downstream migrants
 because of the additional migratory time to the
 ocean (which causes increased mortality due to
 physiological changes occurring prior to the
 fishes' arrival at the ocean, and again due to
 increased consumption by predator fish and
 birds);

  (e)  the indirect killing of downstream migrants
 through fish stunned by passage over and through
 the dams being deposited in concentrated
 locations where they become easy pray for
 predator fish and birds; and 

   (f)  the indirect killing of upstream migrants
 through the inefficiencies of fish ladders and the
 effects of dam reservoirs including increased
 water temperatures, reduced oxygen levels, and
 interference with homing instincts.

The overwhelming weight of scientific evidence
 simply shows that removal of the four lower
 Snake River dams is the only option that has a
 reasonable chance to save the Snake River salmon
 from extinction.

I will agree there is no "silver bullet" in every
 instance for the recovery of salmon.  But the
 elimination of the four lower Snake River dams is
 as  close to a silver bullet as you will get for the
 Snake River salmon.  One frequently hears that
 the "Four H's" (hydropower, hatcheries, harvest,
 and habitat) must all be addressed to preserve the
 salmon from extinction.  In the case of the Snake
 River salmon, however, it is hydropower that has
 caused the need for the hatcheries by eliminating a
 vast area of spawning grounds; it is hydropower
 that harvests the vast majority of the fish, and it is
 hydropower that has ruined the habitat by 
 changing the salmon's natural river habitat into a
 series of lakes.  In the case of the Snake River,
 hydropower and the Four H's are virtually
 synonymous.

You are looking a gift horse in the mouth, Gary. 
 The large majority of the people in Washington,
 the large majority of the people in the Northwest,
 and  the large majority of the people in the
 country, want to save the salmon from extinction
 and they are willing to pay for it.  Instead of
 fighting dam  removal through association with
 those who make embarrassingly unintelligent
 assertions such as the labeling of the removal of
 the four lower Snake River dams an "unproven
 radical measure," you should embrace the concept
 and encourage your governmental representatives
 to mitigate any adverse impacts in a manner that
 guarantees a positive impact to eastern
 Washington.  Just as everyone in Richland has
 benefitted from the Hanford cleanup over the last
 twenty years, everyone in eastern Washington can
 benefit from a "Snake River cleanup" for the
 foreseeable future.

                   - Ron Richards ('63) -

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Subj:   Subscribe
From:   DTrent1957@aol.com
To: sandbox@richlandbombers.com

Please add me to your distribution list!  
Gotta be some entertainment in there!

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Subj: The Harvest is Great but the Salmon are
   Few.  What's up with that?

From: Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy '65
Me12147@aol.com
  I find it difficult to worry about the extinction of
 the Snake River salmon when I saw Indians
 allowed to sell many, huge salmon for a dirt cheap
 price, down at Columbia Point Park last summer.
 If extinction is a REAL possibility, why is that
 allowed and why are we still able to buy and eat
 salmon? Doesn't make sense to me. Sincerely,
 Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy '65

                                  ~ ~ ~

Please add me to the sandbox mailing list so I can
 play too.  

adporter49@hotmail.com
Alan Porter 67

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Subj:    Salmon vs. People: 
           Which Species is Endangered Most?
From:  Sandra Summers '76
           SweetAdvis@aol.com

There is so much I would like to say on this issue,
 and so little time;  So Little Time in regard to my
 own hectic life and the lives of all of us, and So
 Little Time left within which to make carefully
 calculated decisions and study the impending
 implications of whatever IS or IS NOT going to
 be  done in regard to tearing down Pacific
 Northwest power and navigation dams with the
 hope of saving salmon runs.

I would hate to see things going all to hell just
 because too many of us, like me, are just to
 terribly busy with our own life challenges and
 interests to get involved in helping resolve matters
 so important as this. Maybe I'll have more time
 later, to say more.

Just let me say this for now: In the name of
 progress, comfort and need, and sometimes
 greed, we have made a lot of mistakes in the last
 two hundred years and more.  This includes what
 we've done with our dams as well as many other
 "civilized" developments and attitudes.  In many
 ways, it would seem, we have "shot ourselves in
 the foot."

I can only address one portion of the effect of
 tearing down these dams now, but let me tell you
 this, with all my heart.  If those dams are torn
 down, without first "putting in place," (not just
 planning and proposing), a system of Clean
 Energy Replacement for the power production
 that is going to be lost, we might just, in effect,
 be  "shooting ourselves in the head."   Replacing
 clean hydro power with the dirty burning of
 hydrocarbons not only will worsen the
 environment both for us and our native fish.  It
 will also put more of our national fate in the hands
 of foreign powers who do not necessarily have
 our best interests in mind.

As I see things in this world now, mankind is just
 as endangered as are the Northwest salmon runs.
 I hope we don't end up sacrificing either for the
 other, but if we don't first replace what we are
 getting ready to destroy, then perhaps the fish
 have far more practical intelligence than us and
 really deserve to have things as they were in 1492.

                   ~ Sandra Summers (76) ~
                          
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Thanks again for all of your contributions,
 everyone.  There are a lot more of your letters
 in the SANDBOX mailbox that I haven't been
 able  to get to yet.  But keep on sending your
 stuff in.  Your ideas, your opinion, your
 personal experience is very important.  So, let's
 hear from you in The SANDBOX.   More Issues,
 More Subscribers, More Things to Talk About, as
 the Year 2000 rolls on!  What you have to say
 here could benefit the quality of life for all of us,
 so don't hold back!

Reminder: Please include name:
               First (Maiden) Last (Class Year)
With all submissions and subscription requests.
            

  -Al Parker
 Your Sandbox Moderator
               sandbox@richlandbombers.com
                 
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #58 ~ April 5, 2000

"She that in wisdom was never so frail 
 To change the cod's head for the salmon's tail..."

        - from William Shakespeare's Othello -

                              ~ ~ ~

                  SANDBOX #58  Salutes:  
                  The Col-Hi Class of 1958
  Class AA WashingtonState Basketball Champs
  Class AA Big Nine League Basketball  Champs  
 Class AA Yakima Valley League FootballChamps
           Go to that Site for a great picture
          of coach Art Dawald and the team!
       http://richlandbombers.1958.tripod.com/
            Find '58 Roster, E-Mail addresses
                 Personal Web Page Links
                And lots of other good stuff.  
               Say Hello to Someone There!

                              ~ ~ ~

Look Who's Talking Today:
 
   About Salmon vs. Dams:

       "What  about the impact on power, prices,
 food production and continued mass net
 harvesting by native Americans?"                    
                      - Jeff Brown '70 

       "You can't have the Snake River salmon on
 the Endangered Species list, and on the menu at
 the same time."
              - Karen Schildknecht Mateo '67

       "The fishery was maintaining...until all the
 Fish processing ships and thousands of miles of
 seine and gill nets went offshore..."
                        - Gus Keeney '64

      "The fools in Portland need to clean up the
 sewer they call the Willamette before they EVER
 think about telling US what to do with OUR
 Dams."
                        - Paul Casey '70
  
   Other Subjects:

            "...if we deserve Bill Clinton..."
                       - Ray Wells '54

   "the kind of  intelligent discussion ... that befits
 the fact that we did get a useful education at
 RHS or Columbia High School..."
                 - Irene de la Bretonne '61

 A Tragedy and Warning Shared:
                  "We reap what we sow."
                 - Katie (Sheeran) Johnson (61)
                  
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Subj:    Salmon vs. Dams: What will be the Cost?
From:    Jeff Brown (70)
BrownJJ@email.msn.com 

Response to Ron Richards (63).

Ron, your response to Gary Beyhmer (64)
 seemed a little harsh.  It sounds as though this is
 a passionate topic for you (It is for me).  Maybe
 you are a professional environmentalist. While
 your facts may be correct regarding the mortality
 of young salmon on the Snake river, it would be
 helpful if you could reference your sources. Also
 since you appear to be so well informed, maybe
 you can enlighten the rest of us as to what the
 impact of the removal of the dams would have
 with regards to power availability and cost to the
 Western consumers? What is the impact to
 farmers and food production? What is the
 Sociological Impact? Where will power to our
 communities be coming from over the next 20
 years?  Is it true that the Frasier river in British
 Columbia is a dam-less river and that the
 percentage depletion of the Salmon runs on this
 river are similar to the percentage depletion of
 salmon runs on the snake river? If so, could there
 be other major reasons for salmon depletion.
 What are the effects of salmon fishing in the
 Pacific ocean on the salmon runs for our rivers? 
 And what about the politically incorrect topic of
 Indian fishing on the mouths of many of our
 rivers?  Do you think that the indiscriminate
 stretching of multitudes of nets across the
 mouths of our rivers has any effect? If so how
 much?

I live in western Washington, where you may also
 live.  Over here we have all seen the way today's
 Indians fish. In just the casual course of
 observation when I travel locally, I have seen
 numerous instances of Indian nets stretched
 across the Puyallup river, the Nisqaully river,
 Chamber creek, and more. I have recently
 worked as an outside architectural consultant to
 a tribe on the west coast of Washington. In the
 course of my consulting I have seen a fish
 catching/processing factory at the mouth of one
 of our rivers. During the course of regular
 monthly visits I have seen seasonal runs of a
 variety of fish ranging from King Salmon and
 Sockeyes to Steelhead and rare Blueback
 Salmon being netted at the mouth of this river. 
 It is hard to believe that any fish is left to return
 after the massive catches I have seen.  The
 female salmon are stripped of there eggs and
 tons of these salmon eggs are shipped to Japan
 for consumption (not to mention the
 salmon).  
 
While the dams have some obvious effect on our
 salmon, I would rather think that we could divert
 some of our 'passion for the environment' and
 'dollars to tear down dams', toward applying our
 selves to mitigating the effects of dams while
 also capturing the water resources of our region
 for power and farming.  Do you think we are
 capable of applying ourselves in that manner? 
 And what about the Indian? How long will the
 Indians remain immune to the scrutiny or our
 environmentally sensitive minds and hearts? 

Jeff Brown (70)

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Subj:    Re: Salmon Recovery
From:  Karen Schildknecht Mateo (67)
CuteNBossy@aol.com

To Ron Richards (63)

I think the only question I have is how can the
 removal of the dams, and the expense it will be
 to the taxpayers, be the ONLY "reasonable"
 solution? I guess I must have missed something
 if it's possible to destroy 4 dams, that are the
 'supposed' cause of salmon extinction, while
 allowing ocean netting, river netting, destruction
 of salmon at the hatcheries, allowing the terns to 
 feed freely, and raising the salmon limits of the
 recreational fishermen on charter boats? And you
 say that hydro power is the MAJOR cause of
 salmon reduction? If the majority of the people in
 Washington, the Northwest, and indeed, the
 entire country, are really serious about saving the
 Snake River salmon, why are they still eating it?
 Until people can refrain from catching, selling,
 and eating the salmon, how will it ever replenish
 itself? I saw the following statement in the
 newspaper about 3 weeks ago, unfortunately I
 can't recall the name of the gentleman who said
 it, but it completely explains how I feel: "You
 can't have the Snake River salmon on the
 Endangered Species list, and on the menu at the
 same time." The only way the salmon are going
 to be able to replenish themselves, is to call a 3
 to 5 year moratorium on fishing and netting. I
 can't see how anything else will work. When the 
 Spotted Owl was placed on the Endangered
 Species list, no one was allowed to even set foot
 in the area where they were nesting. The owls
 survived, the lumber industry survived, and so
 will the fishing industry. What will happen 
 if, after tearing down all 4 dams, the salmon keep
 diminishing? Are YOU going to pay to have the
 dams replaced? I've also read studies that show
 the Snake River will take up to 50 years to
 recover from all the damage removing the dams
 will cause, so I guess it's really a moot point,
 since it's actually our children who will pay for it
 all in the end. Why not try to ban all salmon 
 fishing, and especially stop allowing the Japanese
 to use mile long nets in OUR waters (thereby
 saving the fish near THEIR shores), for a period
 of 3 years, and if it's determined that there is
 absolutely no increase in the salmon population,
 then we can tear out the dams. Isn't that, after
 all, the course of action with the least long term
 destruction?

         - Karen Schildknecht Mateo (67) -

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Subj:    Fisheries:
From: Gus Keeney '57
sgkeeney@ados.com

To Ron Richards(63)

I am glad to see you are so open minded that
 you failed to mention the fishery was maintaining
 (With the Help of the hatcheries) with all the
 dams in place until all the Fish processing ships
 and thousands of miles on seine and gill nets
 went offshore several years ago.  These nets
 are just outside our official offshore boundaries. 

Gus Keeney(57)
sgkeeney@ados.com

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Subj:  Bill Clinton
From: Ray Wells (54)
ray@transcribing.com (Ray Wells)

I appreciated (and agreed with) John Allen's (66)
 analysis of the Wayne LaPierre, Charleton
 Heston, Bill Clinton scenario.  Now I wish
 someone would take it on themselves to do the
 same kind of analysis to show why our current
 good economy was set into motion before
 Clinton took office.  And I'd like someone to
 explain why Bill Clinton continues to get high
 approval ratings in spite of having a disastrous
 foreign policy, and no realistic plans to solve the
 current problems  facing our nation, e.g., the
 current oil/energy crisis, failure of public
 education, high illegitimate birth rate, illegal
 drugs, single parent families, and (oh yes) failure
 to enforce the current gun laws.  Maybe the
 popularity of porn on the Internet and Bill
 Clinton's popularity go hand in hand.  In the final
 analysis, the people get what they deserve.  And
 if we deserve Bill Clinton, it doesn't reflect good
 on us.

                    -   Ray Wells (54) -
 
 
Subj: Likes Ron Richard's Response
From:  Irene de la Bretonne (61)
IreneHays@aol.com wrote:

Excellent, Ron, I appreciate your response.  Your
 message IS the kind of intelligent discussion I
 believe the majority of the Sandstorm-reading
 alums welcome and that befits the fact that we
 did get a useful education at RHS or Columbia
 High School.  However, I fully expect that my
 response will be excluded from the Sandstorm
 just as yours has been by exception.   Alas, keep
 the faith!!!

Irene de la Bretonne (61)
Dr. Irene D. Hays

                               ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Where Is It Written?
From:   Paul Casey '70
CaseyPA52@aol.com

Where is it written that we have to have Salmon? 
 I don't particularly care if salmon are "wild" or
 ranch raised  -- either way they taste nearly the 
 same.  The Indians should stop netting, and the
 commercial fishermen and Japanese should stop
 fishing for Salmon.  And the fools in Portland
 need to clean up the sewer they call the
 Willamette before they EVER think about 
 telling US what to do with OUR Dams.

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Subj:   Reaping What We Sow
From:   Katie (Sheeran) Johnson (61)
Tjoh500077@aol.com

Recently Tom and I had a tragedy in our family
 that I want to share for a "heads up" to 
 everyone.  It might be a little long and you can
 cut it if you want but I'm going to tell my story.

Our Miniature Schnauzer Gracie, got out of the
 yard the other day and Saturday we received a
 call from someone saying they had found her and
 where we could find her body.  Someone had
 dragged, choked and stabbed her out by an
 orchard near our home.  She was our sweetheart
 and was everybody's friend. We lost more than
 our best friend this week.  We lost faith in the
 community.
  
 We're wondering how someone could have killed
 a helpless, friendly little dog.  Would it bother
 them to kill a child?  

 Food for  Thought: Someone else wrote....Let's
 see, maybe  it's because Dr. Spock said we
 shouldn't spank  our children when they
 misbehave because their little  personalities
 would be warped and we might damage their

 self-esteem.  And we said, an  expert should
 know what he's talking about so we won't spank
 them anymore.  Then someone said that teachers
 and principals better not discipline our children
 when they misbehave.  And the school
 administrators said no faculty member in this
 school better touch a student  when they
 misbehave  because we don't want any
 bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be
 sued.  We accepted their reasoning. Then some
 of our top elected officials said that it doesn't
 matter what we do in private as long as we do
 our jobs.  And agreeing with them, we said it
 doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the
 President, does in private as long as I have a job
 and the economy is good.  Someone said let's
 print magazines with pictures of nude women
 and call it wholesome down-to-earth
 appreciation for the beauty of the female body. 
 And we said we have no problem with that.
 Someone else took that appreciation a step
 further and published pictures of  nude children
 and then stepped further still by making them
 available on the Internet.  We said they're entitled
 to their free speech.  The entertainment industry
 said, let's make movies that promote profanity,
 violence, and illicit sex. And let's record music
 that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and
 satanic themes.  Let's make video games where
 children learn to consider it sport to kill and
 maim anything that moves.  We said it's just
 entertainment, it has no adverse effect and
 nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right
 ahead.  

Therefore, now we're asking ourselves
 why our children have no conscience, why they
 don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't
 bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, or
 themselves.  Probably, if we think about it long
 and hard enough we can figure it out.  I  think it
 has a great deal to do with... "we reap what we
 sow".
  
I wrote this in memory of Gracie.
                                 -Katie

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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #59 ~ April 12, 2000

         "Good company and good discourse 
              are the very sinews of virtue."
               - Izzak Walton 1593 - 1683

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               The SANDBOX #59  Salutes:  
                 The Col-Hi Class of 1959       
http://homepages.go.com/~dentover/59rhs/rhs59.html
    There you will Find `59 Roster, `59 E-Mail List
        Find there also: A ton of pictures from:
            57 - 58 - 59 Columbian Annuals
                     And pictures from:
      20th Reunion 25th Reunion 40th Reunion
        John Northover is your Host and Site
           Administrator for the class of `59. 
         Send any update information to him:
                    dentover@funtv.com

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Look Who's Talking Today:
     Talking About Salmon vs. Dams:

"As long as the Asian countries are allowed to
 harvest millions upon millions of tons of salmon,
 what we do in the Northwest to preserve the run
 is futile and of  little result other than to act as
 political rhetoric to gain the votes of the groups
 that are willing to give up their country but are
 not willing to protect it."

                       - Jay Siegel `61

"When a plan is based on "doing the one right
 thing," I have to suspect a hidden agenda that
 has nothing to do with the stated problem. In
 such cases, arguing the "rightness" of any
 particular option is a diversion and a waste of
 time. It's generally more useful to focus on NOT
 DOING ANYTHING OBVIOUSLY WRONG."

                      - Dick Epler `52

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"We need an alternative power source in place
 before destroying our dams.  There are other
 considerations... " (regarding) "such heavy
 demands on our environment...self-limit family
 size..."

            - Norma Loescher Boswell `53

                             ~ ~ ~

Subj: Salmon and Dams and Family Size
From:   Norma (Loescher) Boswell `53
boswelln@oneworld.owt.com

Sandra Summers  has said what's on my mind!
 We need an alternative power source in place
 before destroying our dams.
           
There are other considerations. A very important
 one is to self-limit family size so as not to make
 such heavy demands on the environment. With
 that decision in place, every other effort to better
 the human condition will stand a better chance of
 success. 

            - Norma (Loescher) Boswell `53

                                ~ ~ ~  

Subj:   A sadness!
From:   Jay Siegel `61
jazfuchsias@prodigy.net

To:  Ron Richards,

I just wanted to drop a line from a place that is
 not as directly impacted upon by the dam
 question. It is a question very close to my heart
 as some 45 years ago, I fought a battle against
 the first high dam on the Cowlitz River - we lost
 that battle.

Are the dams a factor in the decline of the salmon
 on the Snake River? There is no denying that
 they are a factor. Are they the cause of the loss
 of entire subspecies of life from the earth? Most
 definitely not! 

Will the removal of these dams allow the runs to
 recover? That is one that only time will tell. It is
 however apparent to many people that removing
 the dams will only extend the misuse of this
 resource, the Pacific Salmon, for a time.

Destroying the dams does not address nor will it
 impact upon the major cause of the loss of the
 salmon runs through out the Northwest - the
 aggressive harvesting of our salmon, on the high
 seas, by other countries. As long as the Asian
 countries are allowed to harvest millions upon
 millions of tons of salmon, what we do in the
 Northwest to preserve the run is futile and of
 little result other than to act as political rhetoric
 to gain the votes of the groups that are willing to
 give up their country but are not willing to
 protect it.

Increasing the number of salmon reaching the
 ocean only increases the number of fish that will
 be harvested off shore. Instead of spending the
 money to broach the dams, lets put it to work
 eliminating the real problem. I have spent some
 time in Japan, and one of the most noticeable
 features of its coastal waters is the lack of life.
 Their demand for food is so great that the waters
 have been made almost sterile by over fishing.
 The same attitude has been applied to all the seas
 of the world - take all that you can without a
 thought for tomorrow. 

Some 220 years ago, when our territorial limit
 was set to 12 miles, that seemed a safe distance
 as no cannon could throw a projectile further
 than that. Now, that 12 miles has become the
 laughing stock of the whole world: will spend
 billions to help other countries, and millions to
 save endangered species all over the world, but
 our politicians would rather destroy the economy
 of one of our own regions than to take a stand
 and say: NO FISHING! The distance is not the
 important thing, the wholesale harvesting of the
 runs must be stopped!

If that is done, then talk about the dams; if they
 are still a significant problem, then maybe they
 should be broached, but lets stop the over
 harvesting on the high seas.  As US registered
 liner on the high seas is US property, why then
 cannot the salmon that are from our water be
 considered US property and protected from
 exploitation even if they should wander 1000
 miles from our coast.

At one time, "We the People" stood for
 something. It meant that the other nations of the
 world would no longer walk over for their own
 ends. If war was necessary to protect the
 interests of The People in general then that was
 the action taken. The people who are benefiting
 from those dam on the lower Snake are part of
 The People.  They deserve to be taken into
 consideration whenever the "good of the whole"
 is discussed.

Even the "experts" are not sure that opening the
 dams will bring back the salmon runs, but they
 do agree that stopping the wanton slaughter on
 the high seas will stop the decline! Instead of
 condemning the dams, which are providing for
 The People, let's condemn the harvesters from
 other nations that are willing to not only destroy
 the salmon run for their own greed, but will
 willingly standby and allow the "well
 intentioned" within our country destroy part of
 our economy, and thank us for making more
 salmon available for them to harvest.

                      - Jay Siegel `61-

                                ~ ~ ~ 

Subj:  The NW Salmon Debate
From: Dick Epler
depler@ortelco.net

The only thing I know about the NW
 Salmon Debate is what I've read from Ron
 Richards (63)and Gary Behymer (64) in recent
 issues of the Sandstorm and SandBOX. I'm
 unaware of any controlling legislation and
 haven't attended any of the Corps of Engineers
 meetings. However, I do consider myself a
 common-sense environmentalist, and a 
 conservative in the "old  tradition" of keeping
 the best of what we know is true, while requiring
 a close scrutiny of the unproven. I'm hoping the
 comments of a neophyte in these matters might
 provide some additional insight to this debate.
 
My perception so far is that something is missing
 in the way the problem and solutions are
 currently framed. I'm a builder, not a destroyer,
 and in my life I've never seen a problem that
 didn't have a constructive solution. On the other
 hand, I know intuitively that any catastrophic
 solution, such as destroying the dams, is likely to
 cause more long-term problems than anyone can
 predict. Worse, the desired result of returning
 large numbers of salmon up the Snake River is
 not likely to happen. Not when only 30 sockeye
 salmon returned last year (Ron's data).
 
I say that in spite of Ron's assertion that "The
 overwhelming weight of scientific evidence
 simply shows that removal of the four lower
 Snake River dams is the only option that has a
 reasonable chance to save the Snake River
 salmon from extinction." From my experience,
 that's not a reasonable statement and it
 immediately raised a red flag for me.
 
No one interested in "real" science could or
 would make such a statement. There may be a
 lot of data, but so far as I can tell, no one has yet
 constructed a verifiable experiment, statistically
 large enough, to consider all the known factors.
 If there were such results, I don't believe we'd
 be having this debate. What Ron thinks is science
 may be nothing more than "PhDs for hire" whose
 job is to provide the illusion of science to justify
 a political agenda or conclusion. That's called
 "junk science." While I don't know that to be
 true in this case, I know some environmentalists
 have used this technique before and Ron's
 assertive statement is a trigger.

Understand I don't suspect Ron's motives. So
 far as I know, all the alumni of RHS are
 honorable people. Yet it's quite possible to be
 misled by elitist personalities who croon, "trust
 me" with little real justification for what they're
 advocating.
 
Here's what I would need, at a minimum, to
 support a drastic decision to destroy the dams: a
 simple data table that correlated all the options
 involved in the extinction of the Snake River
 salmon to their percentage contribution to the
 overall problem. Of course, an independent
 verification of the results (peer review) by
 leading scientists in the field is mandatory. That's
 called "real science" and should have been
 produced at least 15 years ago (maybe it was).
 
So that's one thing. However, another red flag
 was raised when Ron compared the proposed
 Snake River cleanup to the Hanford cleanup.
 Now that's something I do know a little about.
 I just downloaded the most recent Hanford
 Annual Report (1998) to review the cleanup
 progress since I left in 1995. Little has changed.
 While there's been a lot of activity, there's not
 been a lot of "essential cleanup" done on the
 level originally proposed in the early ‘70s. The
 Port of Benton is NOT going to be able to
 reclaim all the contaminated land anytime soon
 for the purpose of raising crops and animals as
 originally promised in the early ‘90s. It's not that
 we don't have the science. Most of the science to
 cleanup Hanford has been known since the
 mid-‘50s (and yes, I was there then). The official
 reason for not doing the work is always the same
 down through the years – worker safety. The
 real reason, however, is politics. Recall that in
 the absence of politics, The Corps of Engineers,
 along with about 50,000 workers, built the city
 of Richland (houses and stores), the reactors, the
 separation plants, and the 300 Area research
 facilities in just 22 months for about $350
 million. During this time there were only 11
 deaths in two incidents – a pretty good safety
 record. So large government projects CAN be
 done without compromising safety, and in the
 absence of perfect knowledge (another reason
 for not doing the work). Nevertheless, in the
 current environment, the science-driven cleanup
 mission had to change to accommodate the
 politics of too much money (everyone wants
 their fair share).
 
Accordingly, DOE and Hanford have generated
 mountains of paper over the years to justify
 continued funding, but the essential cleanup
 (tanks, K-basin, and soil vitrification) schedules
 continue to be rewritten. I can't fault anyone. In
 the absence of any real threat to downwinders or
 anyone else, this is a perfectly natural
 development. Understand, the simple passage of
 time has continued to reduce the radioactive
 hazards as the really bad isotopes (high activity)
 dissipate with each passing year. Remaining are
 the long-lived isotopes (less dangerous) in the
 ground and tanks that are still slowly migrating
 toward the Columbia River. Presumably,
 Hanford will address this problem when it
 becomes necessary.
 
One of the earliest, and eminently practical,
 cleanup solutions (proposed in the early 70's)
 was simply to build a fence around the place to
 buy the time needed for nature to do her work. It
 was rejected as being bad for the local economy.
 And so we developed the current
 full-employment plan to dispose of the easy stuff
 while still producing the requisite time. As Ron
 says, the Hanford cleanup has been good for the
 economy of the Tri-Cities, but with one
 exception the decision was not based on science.
 Once science had determined that the unique
 basaltic geology of the area was sufficient to
 significantly slow the migration of the long-lived
 isotopes toward the Columbia River, the decision
 to postpone essential cleanup was a no-brainer.
 Someday, after more than 55 years, we may yet
 get around to the "real" Hanford cleanup (but
 then again, maybe not!).
 
To translate these lessons to the Snake River
 salmon cleanup, we need to ask a couple of
 questions: Is the proposed destruction of the
 dams associated with a full-employment plan? If
 so, how many federal dollars have been allocated
 over how many years? With Hanford, these were
 known factors early in the process.
 
At this point, I must confess: I lied. Even if Ron
 gave me the "table of options" I requested, I still
 might not support destroying the dams. I have
 one more concern. Let's suppose Ron's worst
 fears are realized. Suppose the dams stay in place
 (or don't) and the Snake River never sees
 another wild salmon? What's the worst impact of
 that scenario? Apparently very little. My
 grandchildren will still be able to fish for salmon
 in Idaho because of seeding from the hatcheries.
 
On the other hand, what's the worst impact of
 destroying the dams? Apparently quite a lot.
 Many industries and people will be affected
 across the Northwest. Worse, we don't even
 have the beginnings of that needed
 full-employment plan (read federal dollars) to
 assure that existing and forecasted levels of
 electricity, irrigation, and transportation will be
 replaced in time to prevent major impacts on
 people and associated economies.
 
Here's a rule-of-thumb I've found useful in these
 situations. When a plan is based on "doing the
 one right thing," I have to suspect a hidden
 agenda that has nothing to do with the stated
 problem. In such cases, arguing the "rightness"
 of any particular option is a diversion and a
 waste of time. It's generally more useful to focus
 on NOT DOING ANYTHING OBVIOUSLY
 WRONG. To save the Snake River salmon, there
 are, no doubt, quite a number of constructive
 options that can still be done that are "not
 obviously wrong." In which case we still need
 that option table! Nevertheless, I've signed
 Gary's petition.
 
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 subscription requests to:

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Please include you First, (Maiden), Last name
 and class year with all subscription requests.
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #60 ~ April 15, 2000

Look Who Was Talking Yesterday:

  "About things on which the public thinks long 
         it commonly attains to think right."

                      - Samuel Johnson
                         (1709 - 1784)

Look Who's Talking Today:

       "If you like the $2 a gallon gas prices, you're
 going to love the price of food and electricity
 with the dams gone."

                     - Patrick Goble `71

      "Leaders are not always pretty.  Not always
 nice, don't all believe in God. I am sure though,
 every great politician was also a great poker
 player."

                     - Patty Stordahl `72

       "I think growing up at Ground Zero did have
 an impact on how I view being alive- it is a gift,
 it is a gas and it can be gone in a flash."

                      - Peggy Hartnett `72                             


                  "Stand Proud, America!"

                       -Tom Hemphill `62
  

         "The Salmon issue almost feels like
    motherhood and the flag to those of us 
    raised in the shadow of the Dams on the 
    Columbia..."

                    - Helen Cross Kirk `62


  "If we aren't talking about what you want to             
    talk about, who are you going to blame?"

                         - Al Parker `53

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SANDBOX # 60 Salutes The Class of 1960!
When you go to:  
http://richlandbombers.tripod.com/1960/
You will find: Class Roster, E-mail Addresses,
40th Class Reunion Info, In Memoriam, Album 
of Grade School Class Pictures, Notes, Comments, 
Other good stuff:  Webwright: Richard Anderson

                          ~ `~`~`~`~`~

Here is More of What You're Saying Today:
 
 From: Patrick Goble `71
 Pacube@email.msn.com
 Subj: Get Rid of The Factory Ships
 
To save the salmon, try getting rid of the factory
 ships off the mouth of the Columbia River run by
 the Japanese and other countries. Then if the
 Indians want to fish as a right of their heritage,
 have them fish as their ancestors did, not
 with modern methods. If you like the $2 a gallon
 gas prices your going to love the price of food
 and electricity with the dams gone.

                              ~ ~ ~
                
Subj:   Keep Us Strong and Prosperous
From:   Patty Stordahl ‘72
DZIGNRITE@aol.com

Regarding McCain and personal preferences.
 And to the comment that I only read one line—
 No need to get ugly.  I must admit though, I'm
 now 46 and finding my arms don't seem to be as
 long as they used to be.  I tend to read articles in
 their entirety through what my children now call
 the slits in my face. For you who are not visually
 challenged this means squinting, or getting my
 magnifying glass out.  I also read the negative
 articles and research them as well. 

I really have never been one to take any one at
 face value.  This may be sad to some who are a
 bit more naive or had a more protected life but I
 have prospered in my later years by being very
 thorough in my studies of the people I come in
 contact with or need to rely on.  Steve, you
 could not have put it in better words.  McCain
 does not have the control a true politician needs,
 regardless of Passion or Morals.

I would challenge any American out there who
 can find one great leader in our country's history
 that does not have serious skeletons and
 indiscretions in their lives or in their families lives
 as a matter of fact in our own personal lives.  
 So moral behavior is not a factor with me in
 running for office. Some of our most beloved
 and revered politicians have been nothing less
 than deviant.  But they get the job done.

Time to get off the poor McCain wagon I think. 
 The American People listened and watched all
 the incumbents and the American people voted.
 POW's all sacrificed and stood tall.  I am so
 proud of all our vets, Especially the Viet Nam
 men and women.  That is the battle that I grew
 up around and I wore many copper bracelets.
 That was the war, (it was a war to me), maybe
 not labeled one, but hell nonetheless. That truly
 touched my life.

McCain:
 Passion maybe, ego definitely, pretty family, you
 bet.  Leaders are not always pretty.  Not always
 nice, don't all believe in God. I am sure though,
 every great politician was also a great poker
 player.

Run the country and keep us strong and
 prosperous that is what I want.

                   - Patty Stordahl (72)

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From: Peggy Hartnett (72)
highdesert@theriver.com 
(A modern hotel in a timeless town)

Re: Salmon and the dams
and: McCain
and: Tobacco
and: Aliens

I am so tired of hearing "Indian" fishing as a real
 threat to salmon.  I cannot believe that the ones
 they are harvesting for their own consumption
 or for sale is a real problem. We have known the
 fish were going since they first studied the effect
 of really hot water releases from the reactors,
 since McNary went up, and since we allowed
 commercial fishing at the mouth of the 
 Columbia. I am not sure it is possible to undo
 what we have done but that doesn't mean we
 shouldn't try whatever we can.  And everyone
 acts like there will be power rationing if we take
 down some dams.  Well, that might not be such a
 bad idea in and of itself.  We all need to step
 away from the TV a little, but it might also
 generate interest in alternative power. I live in a
 primarily rural county in southern Arizona and
 the amount of solar and wind generated power
 for personal consumption is something we are
 pretty proud of. The technology is here, it is
 affordable, yes it takes a little more care from the
 consumer than flipping a switch, but you know
 what, we weren't nearly as concerned about Y2K
 as lots of folks.

Re: McCain

Has anyone noticed that we Bombers who live in
 Arizona have been pretty quiet on this subject?

Re: Tobacco

We as a community of people consume all kinds
 of products that we know are harmful, I
 personally believe that the cigarette companies
 not only knew their product was harmful but did
 their best to hide the facts and mislead the public,
 however we have still known the dangers and
 still choose to smoke, and drink and take drugs
 and drive while drinking and skydive and
 rockclimb and ski and scuba dive and hang glide
 and get on airplanes and go into post offices. The
 two points I am trying to make are: We make
 our own choices and in most cases there is a
 great deal of information available to us to make
 intelligent choices, the other one is, we are all
 going to die and placing blame doesn't alter the
 fact. I think growing up at Ground Zero did have
 an impact on how I view being alive-it is a gift, it
 is a gas and it can be gone in a flash.

Re: Aliens

Does the border between Washington and
 Canada look like martial law has been declared?
 It does here. I am curious to know what folks off
 the border have to think and who you all think is
 crossing and why is a 6 yr. old from Cuba a
 refuge and a 6 yr. old from Guatemala a
 criminal? 

                    - Peggy Hartnett `72

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Note: Usually, we favor items written by
 Richland Bomber graduates in The SANDBOX. 
 We make an exception in this case by sharing an
 editorial by a Canadian television commentator
 about America, as published in The
 Congressional Record. 

Subj:      America
Sent by: Tom Hemphill ‘62   
tom@esilimited.com

TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES

Widespread but only partial news coverage was
 given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast
 from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
 television commentator. What follows is the full
 text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the
 Congressional Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
 the Americans as the most generous and possibly
 the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain
 and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by
 the Americans who poured in billions of dollars
 and forgave other billions in debts. None of these
 countries is today paying even the interest on its
 remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
 it was the Americans who propped it up, and
 their reward was to be insulted and swindled on
 the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
 United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
 59 American communities were flattened by
 tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy
 pumped billions of dollars into discouraged
 countries. Now newspapers in those countries
 are writing about the decadent, warmongering
 Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that
 is gloating over the erosion of the United States
 dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
 country in the world have a plane to equal the
 Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the
 Douglas DC10?  If so, why don't they fly them?
 Why do all the International lines except Russia
 fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider
 putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk
 about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
You talk about German technocracy, and you get
 automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you
 find men on the moon - not once, but several
 times - and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
 theirs right in the store window for everybody to
 look at.  Even their draft-dodgers are not
 pursued and hounded. They are here on our
 streets, and most of them, unless they are
 breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
 dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India
 were breaking down through age, it was the
 Americans who rebuilt them. When the
 Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central
 went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. 
 Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans
 raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can
 you name me even one time when someone else
 raced to the Americans in trouble?  I don't think
 there was outside help even during the San
 Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one

Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them
 get kicked around. They will come out of this
 thing with their flag high. And when they do,
 they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands
 that are gloating over their present troubles. I
 hope Canada is not one of those."

Stand proud, America!

End of Editorial
   
This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
 read regarding the United States. It is nice that
 one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of
 the world would realize it. We are always blamed
 for everything, and never even get a thank you
 for the things we do.

I would hope that each of you would send this to
 as many people as you can and emphasize that
 they should send it to as many of their friends
 until this letter is sent to every person on the
 web. I am just a single American who has read
 this, I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE
 READ IT SOON.  Stand proud, America!

                  - Tom Hemphill `62
 
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Subj:   Not Just Political Rhetoric Here
From:  Al Parker `53
sandbox@richlandbombers.com
or:  Adamstreet@aol.com

Moderator's Note: Some people like more salt, 
 some people like more pepper.  Some like equal
 amounts of both.  Keeping the two items in
 separate containers allows the user to select the
 proportions most satisfying to him or her.

That's the basic reasoning behind the two
 separate publications, The Alumni
 SANDSTORM and The SANDBOX.  The
 SANDSTORM is designed to work best with
 memories about growing up in Richland. The
 SANDBOX works best for current Ideas,
 Opinions and Personal Experience.  Once in a
 while the interests of one may overlap the other.

You can subscribe to and participate in one or the
 other or both.  Just as you do with salt and pepper
 at meal time, you may select the exact proportion
 of each that satisfies you most. The following
 item is reflective of discussions involving the
 difference.

But, before we get to that, let me emphasize
 strongly also, one more point: And please
 remember this!  The SANDBOX has always 
 welcomed personal expression about things we
 can do to improve the quality of life for all of us,
 but is in no way limited to "political rhetoric."
 The value of both publications depends on your
 personal participation.  So- If we aren't talking
 about what you want to talk about, who are you
 going to blame?

"Good company.  Good discourse." Izaak Walton
 would like it here.  

                    -Al Parker 
                    Your SANDBOX Moderator 

                               ~ ~ ~


Subj: Clarification Appreciated
From:  Helen Cross Kirk (62)
To: Maren Smyth ‘64 
      (Sandstorm Editorial Staff)

Dear Maren,

Thank you for clarifying that we will not need to
 listen to political rhetoric in the Sandstorm.  The
 Salmon issue almost feels like motherhood and
 the flag to those of us raised in the shadow of the
 Dams on the Columbia, so I felt that was why
 you had made the exception.  But I am not up to
 every and all political issues which we all have
 and feel are so very important.

The reply you published was very well thought
 out in my opinion.
                -  Helen Cross Kirk (62)

                              ~ 60 ~
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #61 ~ April 26, 2000

         "I'll love you dear, I'll love you
                Till China and Africa meet,
         And the river jumps over the mountain
                And the salmon sing in the street."

       From: As I Walked Out One Evening
          By W. H. Aulden (1907 - 1973)

                           ~`~`~`~`~`

Look Who's Talking Today:

     "Each year the fish arrive, looking as though
 they had swum the whole ride in the luggage
 compartment of a greyhound bus."

                        - Bob Mattson (64)

     "...most Americans ...  would rather watch
 something more important and more relevant to
 their lives, like their daily fix of "General Hospital"
 or some hour-long MSNBC puff piece on such 
 historical heavyweights as Kathy Lee Gifford or
 Britney Spears."

                         - John Allen (66)


     "The Sandbox allows me a glimpse into the
 minds of fellow Bombers in a way I never had. It
 is certainly interesting to see the diversity in
 thought which has emerged from such a 
 close-knit community."

                       - Gene Trosper (85)

                                 ~ ~ ~

     "I am always interested when somebody
 simply ascribes everything evil to a single person,
 and will admit nothing good about that same
 person."
                     - Marc Franco (66)

                            ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 

         The SANDBOX, Issue 61, Salutes: 
                     The Class of `61
  
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/5385/
Go there for E-mail addresses, Class Roster,
News, Class Pictures, Reunion News and
Pictures, Great Links.  
Site Administrator: Jay Siegel, jasiegel_61@yahoo.com.

                             ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Here's more of what we're talking about today:

Subj:   Wind, Salmon and Renewable Power
From: Bob Mattson (64)  
Rmat683939@aol.com

I just had to mention that in my billing statement
 this month was a flier from Portland General
 Electric. 

 "Wind and salmon, renewable power.  Nearly
 2,000 customers have enrolled in PGE's Clean
 Wind and Salmon-friendly power.*tm. Our
 customers are supporting  wind. Our
 shareholders spent over 2 million in 1999 to
 support the extra cost of wind resources
 generated from the Vansycle Ridge facility in
 Northeastern Oregon. PGE is also working with
 the BPA  to provide new wind sources  our clean
 wind program. Investigating several sites to
 assure minimal environmental impacts. Perhaps a
 new wind project will be announced later this
 year." 

I live in the lowest canyon of clear creek. It does
 flow from a foothill, Goat Mountain, 4000 feet
 above me. Each year the fish arrive, looking as
 though they had swum the whole ride in the luggage
 compartment of a greyhound bus. Simply put, I
 spent six minutes sleeping through my radio
 alarm this morning, plugged in and trying spawn.

                         - Tuna Bob -
         
                              ~`~`~

Subj: A NATION TURNING INTO TIN MEN
From: John Allen (66)
Reply-to: miles2go@cheerful.com

Portland, Oregon, 14 April 2000

In The Wizard of Oz, the Tin Man spent his time
 searching for that which he did not have - a
 HEART.  If one is to believe recent national
 public opinion polls and the comments from
 "man on the street" interviews concerning the
 Elian Gonzalez case, the majority of our country
 has somehow during the last 30 years, managed
 to lose the same vital organ for which the Tin
 Man was searching.  It is truly difficult to watch
 a once great nation who knew what it was to the
 world, instead become hardened with what
 passes for blas sophistication.   I can't count the  
 number of people I have heard make the same
 comment of, "I'm tired of hearing about it."  To
 that I say, "Poor America!"   How horrible things
 must be for us that we should be plagued by a
 problem not curable with the click of a mouse or
 a remote control.  How forgetfully ignorant we
 have become that we can't be bothered for more
 than a day or two, listening to the plight of a six
 year old child who literally watched his mother
 make the ultimate sacrifice to deliver him from
 the clutches of Fidel Castro.  We used to know
 that Castro's Communism is not the rough moral
 equivalent of our Democracy, and that Fidel
 himself is no less a ruthless criminal than Adolf
 Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Sadaam Hussein, or Pol
 Pot.  But no longer!  That America has largely
 disappeared.

Ordinarily in a case like this, my sympathies
 would be for the rights of the surviving parent. 
 But when that parent, either by choice or by
 force, lives in a country which has
 constitutionally declared the non-existence of
 parental rights, not to mention individual
 HUMAN rights, then he cannot be deprived of
 that which his country will not even recognize. 
 Assuming they have even considered it, I wonder
 what Americans think will happen to this child if
 and when he is returned to Fidel - a man
 provably guilty of the outright murder of many
 children.  Now that Elian has tasted some of

 him to spread the good word to his little friends. 
 Given that, what methods do people think will be
 used to convince little Elian to keep his mouth
 shut - behavior generally foreign to most six
 year-old boys.  The answer these days is, most
 Americans don't CARE what techniques will be
 used, just so they don't have to hear about this
 little boy for one second longer.  They would
 rather watch something more important and
 more relevant to their lives, like their daily fix of
 "General Hospital" or some hour-long MSNBC
 puff piece on such historical heavyweights as
 Kathy Lee Gifford or Britney Spears.

So why IS the Clinton Administration giving the
 bum's rush to young Elian?  Very simply, despite
 his phony, "never let 'em see you sweat" facade,
 Bill Clinton is so exorcised about his likely
 write-up in history books he will live long 
 enough to read, he is making every conceivable
 last ditch effort to accomplish something which
 will win him the Nobel Peace Prize and maybe
 rescue him from the cutting room floor of US
 Presidents.  With most of his other foreign policy
 initiatives undergoing rapid deterioration
 (Northern Ireland, Kosovo, and Haiti to name a
 few), he believes he can gain a rapprochement
 with Castro and normalize relations between our
 two countries before the 22nd Amendment
 gives HIM a boot similar to the one he is trying
 to give little Elian.  Despite comments from
 attorney Greg Craig, Bubba's thinly veiled
 mouthpiece in the matter, the only actual law
 involved in this whole proceeding is the Cuban
 Refugee Adjustment Act of 1966.  This is a law
 which, under normal circumstances, would give
 the little boy unquestioned asylum from Castro. 
 It is only his age and the very sacrifice of his
 mother which gives the US government any
 discretion in the way it INTERPRETS this law.  
 However, "interpretation" of law is, usually, a
 matter for the judicial branch, not political hacks. 
 The Adjustment Act is a law with which Clinton
 has already played political games by "executive
 order" limitations.  Is it really a big surprise
 that this President is not at all concerned with the
 thousands of ILLEGAL Mexican immigrants
 who can be counted on to vote Democrat when
 given their US citizenship immediately prior to
 general elections, while simultaneously limiting
 the LEGAL immigration of Cubans whose
 history predicts they will almost certainly vote
 Republican.  Nevertheless, attorney Craig who,
 along with his patron, has recently found a new
 appreciation for the "Rule of Law," has also
 begun to pontificate about the violations of law
 committed by the Miami relatives of the boy. 
 Not surprisingly, he never mentions exactly
 WHICH law that is (OR if his most recent
 definition of the "Rule of Law" includes telling
 the TRUTH, the WHOLE truth, and NOTHING
 BUT the truth when testifying under oath in
 a US court).   Really, how dare a shill like Craig
 criticize Elian's relatives for trying to ensure for
 him the God-given rights which are denied him in
 Cuba!  Instead, Craig and most of the liberal
 media in this country are doing their dead level
 best to make sure that the Cuban American
 community of South Florida is demonized as
 "crazy, hot-blooded Latinos, full of unreasoning
 hatred for Fidel Castro and prone to violence."  
 Perhaps each of us should seek out a Jewish
 American and tell him or her that it's time to get
 over Adolph Hitler and the holocaust, and simply
 "move on."   I mean, really, aren't we all just a
 little tired of hearing about that ancient history,
 too?  Sadly, I'm afraid that also merits a "yes"
 answer in today's America.

Finally, for those few who have wondered what
 Clinton was doing with his time and his Rhodes
 Scholarship at Oxford University and in the
 Soviet Union (clue, it wasn't studying OR
 graduating), ask yourself why nearly every
 Clinton tax measure is aimed at redistributing the
 wealth created by individual Americans so that,
 rather than "equality of opportunity," this
 country will eventually stand for "equality of
 outcome" (however pitiful that outcome will be).
 And why did Clinton fully support the embargo
 against the extreme RIGHT-wing repression in
 South Africa, and yet does NOT now support
 the continued embargo against the extreme
 LEFT-wing repression in Castro's Cuba?

But let's not allow these bothersome details to
 interrupt our long political snooze or begin to
 regenerate our national "heart."  The Tin
 Man was surely a fool; little Elian is simply "in
 the way;" and, at the end of the day, it's really
 "all about Bill," isn't it?

                    ---John Allen (`66)

                               ~`~`~

Subj:   Thank You For The Sandbox
From:   Gene Trosper
Reply-to:gtrosper@ez2.net
To: sandbox@richlandbombers.com

I'd really like to say "thank you" for such an
 interesting e-publication: The Sandbox.

It's good to know what former Bombers think,
 feel and believe with regard to current events and
 politics. Going to RHS, I was caught up in sports,
 music, partying and all the usual teenage
 diversions from adult life. Politics seemed so far
 away, so boring. I never really got to know how
 my friends and classmates felt about the world at
 large. The Sandbox allows me a glimpse into the
 minds of fellow Bombers in a way I never had. It
 is certainly interesting to see the diversity in
 thought which has emerged from such a  close-knit
 community. What makes it even more
 interesting is that Richland has always been
 pretty much a "government town."

Perhaps growing up in a government town has
 contributed to my political and philosophical
 development from apolitical nothingness to
 libertarianism and a fervent interest in everything
 political. I can definitely point to the fact that my
 grandfather (the man who raised me), who was a
 fire department captain at Hanford's 300 area,
 was sent to Kadlec Hospital numerous times
 for radiation exposure. Having him die in '81
 from massive cancer (lungs, brain, etc.) after
 being given a clean bill of heath by a company
 doctor just before retirement really made me
 think, but I soon filed it away somewhere in my
 gray matter, only to resurface as an adult.

Again, thanks. I look forward to all the great stuff
 published in the Sandbox. It's encouraging and
 inspiring to read the wit and wisdom of those
 from my former hometown.

--Gene Trosper. class of `85 
   (well...woulda been, If I hadn't transferred 
                 in my junior year!)

                              ~ ~ ~

Portland, Oregon, 14 April 2000
Subj:    reply to Ray Wells
From:    Marc Franco (66)
Reply-to: mfranco@sttl.uswest.net 

I was extremely interested in Ray Wells letter
 about Bill Clinton. I am always interested when
 somebody simply ascribes everything evil to a
 single person, and will admit nothing good about
 that same person. John Allen has done this often-
 I mention John because Ray did-  but up until
 now, most people have had a more  balanced
 response to Bill Clinton, whether they like him or
 dislike him. Let's examine Ray's questions and try
 to answer them.  First off, Ray would like
 someone to analyze why people don't recognize
 that the present good economy was set in motion
 before Clinton entered office. (I'm paraphrasing a
 little, but I do believe my paraphrase does match
 Ray's intent.) Actually, Ray, I think most people
 are perfectly aware that the present good
 economy was set in motion well before Clinton
 entered office. I would say that it was actually
 set in motion by the Reagan administration.
 Even though we have been deeply in debt since
 then,  we seem to live through it and it would be
 difficult to deny that Reagan really got this
 going. But this kind of thing is always true. All
 presidents build on the achievements and the
 conditions set by their predecessors. Nobody
 comes in a total vacuum. But your apparent
 attempt to deny that Clinton deserves ANY
 credit for this economy is, I believe total folly.
 Sure, the groundwork was in place when Clinton
 arrived. And yes- Alan Greenspan absolutely
 deserves tons of credit. But to deny that
 Clinton's economic team has been excellent,
 including Robert Rubin (I hope I have the name
 right)- [You've got it right -ed.] widely
 considered one of the best Treasury secretaries
 the nation has had in years- detracts from
 your credibility. Just because you don't care for
 Clinton does not mean everything he does is
 wrong.

     Next point- You ask why Clinton still gets
 such high approval ratings.  Part of that started
 after the disastrous impeachment attempt, which
 many people recognized was blatantly political.
 Clinton's polls rose quite sharply during that
 time. However, I am a little surprised that you
 seem to be unaware that Presidents's approval
 ratings are ALWAYS high as long as the
 economy is good. This was been true over and
 over again. If the economy were bad, then so
 would be Clinton's ratings. The economy is
 good- therefore, Clinton is healthy. Real simple.

    You mention the disastrous foreign policy-
 there are certainly things you may not like about
 his foreign policy- I for one would like to see
 him be tougher with North Korea. However-
 disastrous? Worse than that of other Presidents,
 such as Reagan, Bush, or Jimmy Carter? Perhaps
 you can explain what has been disastrous, rather
 than simply something you don't like? And why
 do you think it has been particularly worse than
 any other President?

            The other problems you mention are
 certainly serious problems. However, since you
 don't want to give credit to Clinton for the
 good economy, because it really started before
 he entered office, I am somewhat surprised to
 see you attempt to give him credit for all of these
 serious problems. Are you seriously claiming that
 they all started with Clinton? If they started
 before Clinton, why do you give Clinton the
 credit? You didn't do that with the economy. I
 do absolutely agree with you about failure to
 enforce current gun laws. It makes me sick to
 think of what people get away with, when it's
 even illegal. But I am extremely unaware that
 earlier administrations did any better or different.
 I didn't think that ANYBODY had enforced the
 current laws. Maybe you could explain why you
 think that earlier administrations had enforced
 gun laws better than the present one. Perhaps
 you could explain why the decline of public
 education began only with Bill Clinton, as you
 are implying, and that earlier administrations
 somehow did a better job of protecting public
 education? I am simply unaware of how much
 better things were with previous administrations,
 but maybe I am stupid.  Since you clearly despise
 Clinton quite a bit, I should possibly make clear
 that I am not defending Clinton a bit in my above
 letter. What I am protesting against is the
 imbalance of your letter- saying that all bad
 things are because of Clinton, and all good things
 must have started before he came into office.
 Other than the Monica affair, Clinton does not
 seem to have been any better or worse than most
 other presidents.
                        Marc Franco (66)

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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #62 ~ May 7, 2000`

                       New Archive Site:
          http://THE.SANDBOX.tripod.com

            "Friendship should be more than 
                    biting Time can sever."

                          - T.S. Elliot
                         (1888 - 1965)

Look Who's Talking Here Today:

         "I continue to watch our maverick from
 Arizona and his references to his three step
 program to recover from his lost bid for the
 nomination..."
                     - Steve Carson `58

      "Richland was not just a place of the
 Cunningham's,  [Happy Days TV family].
 Richland is also a place where some very
 serious decisions were made that will affect 
 many generations to come."
                - Verla Farrens Gardner `61

      "....how good Social Security could be, if
 only one change were made, and that change is
 to jerk the Golden Fleece retirement out from
 under the Senators and Congressmen, and put
 them in Social Security, with the rest of us..."
                      - Maren Smyth `64

     "...If this is a goal to which some of you 
 would care to aspire..." (A Challenge)
                        - John Allen `66

     "To put away one's past, is to put away part
 of one's self.  All of our experiences, for good 
 or ill, are what makes us who we are, TODAY.
                - Michael West Rivers `68

     "What a shameful scene it was that Saturday
 morning!  America, we must wake up."
                    - Ramona Miller `54

                                 ~ ~ ~
        
                         
         The SANDBOX, Issue #62 Salutes:
          The Columbia/RHS Class of 1962

To get to their website, go to ALL Bomber Alumni Links:
   http://www.bigfoot.com/~RichlandBombers
            And click on 1962. You will find:
 Class Roster, E-mail List, Graduation Portraits, 
   Pre-RHS Pictures of 62 Grads, "Help Identify
 Mystery Bombers," 1962 Memorial page, Photo
                  Gallery, 1962 In History. 

                                ~ ~ ~

Here's More of What We're Talking About Today:

Subj: McCain
From:  Steve Carson 58
SteveNitro@aol.com

I continue to watch our maverick from Arizona
 and his references to his three step program to
 recover from his lost bid for the nomination.  If I
 recall correctly the first step was denial, the
 second anger and the third acceptance.  His tone
 on the Sunday morning programs was more
 statesman like than anything he said during his
 rocket ride in the campaign.  I don't doubt his
 sincerity and believe he is a good man.  Perhaps
 the May 9th meeting with the Gov. Bush will
 bring him the peace he needs to get back on the
 team and control his temperament.

                      - Steve Carson 58 -

                                ~ ~ ~

Subj: The Nuclear Age: Our Heritage?
From: Verla Farrens Gardner '61
Verla@bctonline.com

Yes, I agree Jay, [Siegel-61] the desert does cool
 off in the evening Growing up on the desert I
 used to take a sweater with me in the evenings
 during the summer on the East coast - but not
 for long.

I have lived on the East coast, (Washington,
 DC) and traveled to South Carolina many times
 (my first husband's home) and lived in the
 Midwest (Kansas City, MO).  The weather is
 considered a noncontroversial item to discuss
 with people - but maybe not.

There has only been one snide remark to arrive at
 my home address by someone who did not really
 want to identify themselves - I love the people
 but not the product.  My parents were sheep
 ranchers, I was born in Hermiston. My parents
 worked hard to make a living off the land until
 they were 45. Finally they came to Richland to
 make a living from a product they did not believe
 was justified.  Oh, I have heard the high ground
 and the low ground of nuclear.  I have been
 ripped a good one by many when asked where I
 graduated from high school. It was like I 
 personally dropped a bomb on Japan.

My point is that Richland was not just a place of
 the Cunningham's.  (Happy Days TV family)
 Richland is also a place where some very
 serious decisions were made that will affect many
 generations to come.  Too often, I feel,
 Richlandites gloss over the fact that the
 mushroom cloud began in our back yard. Like
 Mr. Rogers says, "You build one missile and I
 build two." and on and on - any Richland graduate
 is capable of doing the math.  I have traveled in
 Japan and also loved the people.  

What part of our heritage is entwined in the grave
 decision made to enter the world in the use of
 nuclear weapons and power? Are nuclear
 power and weapons good for the world today?
 
It is like, growing up in Richland, we do not talk
 about the "stuff" in the back yard.  Richland is
 like many a place - there is murder, hatred,
 incest, domestic violence, child abuse and, yes,
 there are MANY MANY good people.  Maybe I
 am one of a few with sorrow in my heart that the
 nuclear age is here. Does no one have remorse
 for being part of letting the seepage begin...
 
It would be fitting in my mind to say, on entering
 Richland -  "and forgive us, Holy Father, for the
 sins committed here.....
 
              - Verla Farrens Gardner '61

                              ~ ~ ~

Subj:   Put Congress on Social Security
From:   Maren Smyth `64
vegas68@cheerful.com

So that any who don't, may know...

Our Senators and Congressmen don't pay in to
 Social Security, and, of course, they don't collect
 from it.  The reason is that they have a special
 retirement plan that they voted for themselves
 many years ago. For all practical purposes, it
 works like this.  When they retire, they continue
 to draw their same pay, until they die, except
 that it may be increased from time to time, by
 cost of living adjustments. For instance, former
 Senator Bradley, and his wife, may be expected
 to draw $7,900,000, with Mrs. Bradley drawing
 $275,000 during the last year of her life. This is
 calculated on an average life span for each. This
 would be well and good, except that they paid
 nothing in on any kind of retirement, and neither
 does any other Senator or Congressman.

This fine retirement comes right out of the
 General Fund: our tax money.  While we who
 pay for it all, draw an average of $1000/month
 from Social Security.  Imagine for a moment if
 you can structure a retirement plan so desirable
 that people have extra deducted so that they may
 increase their own personal retirement income. 
 A retirement plan that works so well, that
 Railroad employees, Postal Workers, and others
 who aren't in it, are clamoring to get in it.

That is how good Social Security could be, if
 only one change were made, and that change is
 to jerk the Golden Fleece retirement out from
 under the Senators and Congressmen, and put
 them in Social Security, with the rest of us, and
 watch how fast they fix it. If enough people
 receive this, maybe one or some of them along
 the way, might be able to help.  How many can
 YOU send it to?
                     - Maren Smyth `64 

                               ~ ~ ~

Subj: What Has Passed Is Still a Part of Us
From: Michael West Rivers `68
mwestr@lasvegas.net  

Michael West Rivers wrote:

To Verla Farrens Gardner, ( but HEY, everyone
 can READ it.) :o) I for one am sorry you feel
 that way.  To put away one's past, is to put away
 part of one's self. All of our experiences, for
 good or ill, are what makes us who we are,
 TODAY.  Though I admit, I have been surprised
 to find so many of my old friends, who have
 done just that.  Parts of their lives they have just
 decided to "forget" and their friends with it. "Out
 of sight, out of mind." For what ever reason.
 That's OK.  Some things are best not to drag
 -up, though it never stops "being" in the little
 space allotted it in our mind. Some just had
 periods of their lives, that for them, were
 all-round "bad." Another has good memories of
 those same times, but is cut out, because of the
 "time period" it covers.  They do not cease to be
 MY dear and cherished friends, for I will always
 have the good memory of their friendship and
 companionship, in what, for me, was a "good"
 time. So, they will stay in my mind and heart, my
 friend.

As for Richland being a "hot and barren land," it
 may perhaps be.  Though it is not NEARLY so
 HOT and BARREN as Las Vegas and it's
 people are "real."  Their reality deals with
 reality. 

On to what seems to be the crux of the matter:   
 It would seem that you are "hang'n" with
 people who would have you deny your very
 existence. And it doesn't take a history buff,
 (which I am), to stop and say, "I've heard THAT
 song before."

Surrounded by those who do not approve, of this
 or that, who "take a stand," and you also want
 to take a stand, but CAN'T, or you think you
 can't, without denial. I believe those you wish to
 deny, would refer to this as "plausible denial,"
 A "prepared statement," to the affect that you
 had no "choice" in the matter. Your parents
 were\ there, so you were, in effect, "forced" to
 be born there, and should not be held
 accountable for your parents actions. (This
 statement, only to be used, if someone discovers,
 your "secret.") I would agree with you about tax
 payer's money being spent in large quantities
 there, and a lot of OTHER places. And I might
 add, a lot of the money the Government spends,
 IS wasted.  Who needs a "toilet seat" that costs
 $2,700.00 (heard that somewhere) and isn't even
 GOLD, doesn't work any better than a "cheaper
 model" and probably didn't come in a "designer"
 color. I won't even go into a hammer's cost and
 maintenance. But, that is NOT the point. The
 point IS, that without the spending (and the
 waste that goes with it), we would not be able to
 have the opportunity to have this exchange, via
 e-mail. We would not be able heat our TV
 dinner in the micro wave. (Hey, I'm still single)
 None of us, would be able to get our daily dose
 of nostalgia, while reading the Alumni 
 Sandstorm. (Heaven forbid, not THAT.)  We
 would not have MOST of the "good" things we
 have (along with the accompanying "bad" things)
 and use every day. And many of these are, "bi-
 products" of inventions and innovations hit upon
 while spending (and perhaps wasting some)
 taxpayer money.  

As you have seen these pages, I suspect that there
 is "something" there, deep down inside, hidden
 away, that makes you "want to remember" the
 "good things." It may be that in your denial, you
 have your commuter disguised as something
 else, and you are "secretly" viewing this site,
 from the privacy of your bathroom or even a
 "hidden room" in your basement, lest any
 discover your, "awful and shameful past". :o) As
 for me, I am PROUD to have been born in
 Richland. In fact, if it hadn't been for Richland
 and the reason it was built, I and many who
 were born there would not have been born at all;
 for my parents and many others, met in Richland. 

With all the good and bad, ups and downs in my
 life, that make up my being; I wouldn't trade or
 deny my birth place and it's accompanying
 memories for ANYTHING!  

OK, guess I'm finished there. For those of you
 who have heard- (I don't know from whom, or
 perhaps I do...) or just "ASSUMED."  My
 brother is NOT, an only child! On that "WB"
 thing: Now I always figured it stood for "woulda
 been," but I've seen a "wanna be" in there and
 that makes me feel so "LOW," "CHEAP" and
 all-round "COMMON." So, how's 'bout we just
 think of it as "WARNER BROTHERS," COOL
 cartoons them. Now, I'm finished here, except to
 say, Maren, "the checks in the mail." 

                - Michael West Rivers `68 
                  (WARNER BROTHERS)

                                 ~ ~ ~

Subj: Let's Focus On The Issues  
From:   John Allen ‘66
Reply-to: miles2go@cheerful.com

I was somewhat discouraged to see that in the
 most recent issue of the Sandbox, my challenge
 to write only about issues and leave the names of
 other Sandbox contributors aside, was unable to
 be met.  However, I am willing to concede that
 perhaps not everyone read that pledge/challenge
 in Issue 56, Part II.  If this is a goal to which
 some of you would care to aspire, but you are
 not quite certain how to accomplish it, I
 encourage you read those articles which I may
 submit in the future to see exactly how it's done. 
 It should be relatively simple for any graduate of
 RHS.
                   ---John Allen ('66)

                             ~ ~ ~

From:   Ramona Miller `54
CADESNANA1@aol.com

Thank you, John Allen, for saying it all much
 better than I could have regarding Elian.  What a
 shameful scene it was that Saturday morning! 
 America, we must wake up.
                 - Ramona Miller 1954

                             ~ ~ ~

 Thank you, SANDBOX contributors and readers
 for your enthusiastic participation and interest! 
 Many of you have already sent contributions for
 future editions that will be appearing soon on a
 screen near you!  Please send all submissions
 and subscription requests (on or off) to:

             sandbox@richlandbombers.com

Also, please include your class year!  I always
 enjoy getting together with you this way.  May
 all of your important challenges be met, your
 obstacles overcome and your innermost goals 
 achieved!
           -Al Parker '53 (and still learning)!
                 Your SANDBOX Savant
                  (Or something like that.)

                               - 62 -
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #63 ~ May 13, 2000

        "To see what is in front of one's 
                    nose is a constant struggle."
                       -George Orwell    
                         (1903-1950)

Look Who's Talking Today:

    "His motto has always been,
         `the buck stops ANYWHERE but here."
              - Barbara Barron Doyle `50

     "Isolation is one of the worrisome issues of
           people in today's society."
              -Verla Farrens Gardner '61

     "You speak of Human Rights in regard to
 Cuba??  What about Children's Rights here in the
 USA??"
             - Sherry Nugent Dupuy `62

      "I really don't know what to think of
 my nation at times, especially when issues 
 like Elian Gonzalez come to the forefront."
                  - Gene Trosper `85

     "Is someone sniffing the poppies on the way
 to The Emerald City?!
               - Michael J. Crowley `66

     "Bill Clinton is and has been the very best
 president in your life time."
                  - Andrew Eckert `54


     "Clearly, after reading a conservative based
 letter in The Sandbox the liberals on any given
 issue see the light and undergo an immediate
 conversion to the conservative point of view and
 the conservative upon reading a pro Liberal
 piece disavow all their past baggage and endorse
 the Gore ticket in order allow this great nation to
 continue with the Bill and Hillary legacy of big
 government."
                      - Paul Webster `56

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         The SANDBOX, Issue #63, Salutes:
          The Columbia/RHS Class of 1963

To get to the website, go to All-Bomber-Links:
   http://www.bigfoot.com/~RichlandBombers
   and click on 1963

There you will find: Class Roster, E-mail 
 Addresses, Grade School Pictures, 35th 
 Reunion Picture, and lots of other good stuff,
 including sports scores for the year.

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Here's More of What We're Talking About Today:

Subj:    Other Than Monica?
From:    Barbara Barron Doyle (50)
Elyodmij@aol.com

Concerning Mr. Franco's comment that, "Other
 than Monica," he hasn't done anything other
 Presidents haven't done.  Lying under oath and
 being caught at it, depleting the military to the
 point that we can't defend our shores but can
 send out personnel, for indefinite time periods to
 the countries involved in every military mistake
 he has made the last eight years, lying to his
 Cabinet and friends so they will defend him on
 television (to their later embarrassment), and
 hanging poor old Reno out to dry while hiding
 behind her skirts.  His motto has always been,
 "the buck stops ANYWHERE but here."  

If Gore and Mrs. Clinton are elected to office,
 this country deserves everything it will get and
 they will get four more years of Bubba.

Barbara Barron Doyle (50)

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Subj: Sorry To Hear of Loss
From:   Verla Farrens Gardner `61
kengardner@bctonline.com

Katie, I was sorry to hear of the loss of your
 family's pet in such a gruesome manner.  One of
 the Couch's in the Portland had a similar
 experience recently.

Having lived on a ranch for my early years,
 animals are like people to me, each with their
 own personality.  I can only wonder why
 someone would even want to do such an act. 
 Losing a family pet can be just a traumatic as
 losing a family member and the grieving process
 has the same route.

I watch my niece & her husband raising their
 children 6 and 4 and watch with admiration. 
 They make it a priority to be with and there for
 the children.  Isolation is one of the worrisome
 issues of people in today's society.

Best regards,  Verla Farrens Gardner '61

                             ~ ~ ~

Subj: What About Our Own American Children's Future?
From:   Sherry Nugent Dupuy (62)
Granshery@aol.com

Let me say first that Elian is a dear child.  Many
 have taken him to heart.  Some have taken the
 Cuban-American cause to heart. Now let me say
 to you who go on and on about Elian's future -
 What about our own American children's future? 
 Why do I not see a wordy piece about these
 children who are falling through the cracks of
 American society?  These children who will be
 the ruling generation while we are in our
 dotage.....these children who do not have
 ANYone who loves them, (unlike Elian who has
 people fighting over who loves him best), six
 year olds who are murdering each other and
 plotting to murder each other, helpless abused
 children who are returned by the courts or
 agencies to the abusive family to be tortured
 further or finally killed, abandoned newborns in
 dumpsters, children being shot while visiting the
 National Zoo,......shall I go on?  Let us clean up
 our own backyard before trying to impose our
 hypocritical ideas on another nation - even Cuba. 
 It CAN be done with one child at a time.  The
 money/attention/time spent by the media and
 politicians (read taxpayers) on this one child
 while we ignore our own.  Sad.  Time to come
 out of that cocoon that makes you think the
 American way is still the right and only way
 cause something is wrong here with this picture. 
 Time for the fatcats in DC to hold
 hearings/investigations into SOME Child
 Protection Services and find out why they are
 above the law, why they are not held accountable
 when an abused child is returned to parents who
 begin the abusing again or eventually kill
 him/her.  Time to find out why the courts often
 just give these most horrendous of murderers a
 short prison term tantamount to a slap on the
 wrist.  If you don't recognize this as something
 far more urgent than our relations with Cuba, I
 challenge you to go to:

http://grandma.simplenet.com/LittlestAngels.htm

 and read as much as you can stand.  These are
 case histories of murdered children in this great
 country.

You speak of Human Rights in regard to Cuba?? 
 What about Children's Rights here in the USA??

Thank you for your time and attention.

                Sherry Nugent Dupuy (62)

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Subj:   Elian and Communism
From:   Gene Trosper
Reply-to: gtrosper@ez2.net

I really don't know what to think of
 my nation at times, especially when issues like
 Elian Gonzalez come to the forefront.

I don't know about many of you, but my family
 fought against the evils of communism...in fact
 our nation was joined together in fighting
 communism.  Today, I can't say for certain if our
 nation has the same resolve to fight tyranny and
 oppression.

After the "taking" of Elian on Saturday, April 22,
 opinion was split even about whether the INS
 should have used the force it displayed. The
 numbers became a bit more skewed when the
 question of whether Elian should be with his
 father. 65-70% of Americans polled said yes, he
 SHOULD be with his father. The unfortunate
 matter of this however, is that many of those
 who support a father/son reunion took on a
 knee-jerk reaction by supporting Cuba and Fidel
 Castro, as if they were inseparable elements for a
 reunion.

V. I . Lenin used to have an interesting phrase to
 describe well-intentioned people who parroted
 the party line out of ignorance. He (and the
 Communist Party leadership) called them "useful
 idiots." In defending the reunion of Elian and
 Juan Miguel Gonzalez, people are defending
 Fidel Castro and Cuba's communist system,
 stating that people aren't as oppressed as we
 think or that just because Cuba has free health
 care, it's a better place to raise children. Of
 course all of this is said in reaction to those
 (including myself) who merely point out that
 Elian has no hope for a good future in
 Cuba under it's current dictatorial regime.
 Somehow, they think that arguments against
 Castro and communism are synonymous with
 keeping Elian here against the will of his father.
Therefore, the rationale goes, to allow Juan
 Miguel his "rights" as a father (there are no
 parental rights in Cuba), there must be a
 vigorous defense of Cuba and it's leadership. To
 do so will show the "commie-haters" as morally
 bankrupt, greedy and intolerant. Unbeknownst to
 them, however, they are only exposing
 themselves as ignorant of the facts and as willing
 pawns in a political chess match between Cuba
 and the United States.

The fact that many people are engaging in such
 willful defense of something they have no
 knowledge of makes me wonder aloud as to the
 future course of our nation. Would such an
 outpouring of support for the Cuban way of life
 been seen as little as 20 years ago? I sincerely
 doubt it would have on such a massive scale. All
 it takes is a trip to the CNN Cuba chat board to
 realize the nature of what I say. People are going
 so far as to proclaim Cuba as a nation much
 more hospitable to human rights than the United
 States!

If anyone is tempted to fall into this trap, do
 yourself a favor first and research the
 background of Cuba and it's leadership. Do not
 immediately ignore with contempt the claims
 made by Cuban exiles. Do not immediately
 scorn facts such as the law which makes children
 property of the state. Do not ridicule the
 suffering people deal with day after day in this
 communist "paradise." Don't be a useful idiot.

                    -Gene Trosper `85

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Subj: Poppies! Poppies!
From: Michael Crowley `66
Reply-to: mdacrow@enteract.com

Oak Park, IL, 26 April 2000

Regarding John Allen's latest
 tirade-masked-as-commentary ("A NATION
 TURNING INTO TIN MEN," #61), let me see if
 I get this right:

I have a daughter, Amy, whom I take to Cannon
 Beach.  One day while swimming together I
 drown, but she, hapless child, clings to a
 floatable device, and is washed down the coast
 to Manzanita.  Luckily, John is there, rescues
 her, learns her identity, and takes her away to his
 home in Portland.

News of this dramatic rescue reaches my
 erstwhile wife Debora, ('64) back in Chicago. 
 When she demands her daughter back, John
 refuses, citing Debora's residence in Chicago, an
 obvious hotbed of un-American sentiment, as
 witness its subservience to and oppression by a
 Democratic mayor.  No, he will provide my
 daughter with Truth, Justice and The Republican
 Way, values far superior to the (obviously poor,
 by virtue of their venue) family values which
 Debora claims to want to continue to provide.

The battle between Illinois and Oregon escalates
 to the federal courts, who, in their wisdom (well
 OK, John, their unfettered power), says that
 Amy must remain in Oregon until the interstate
 custody battle between the evil Illinois and the
 beneficent Oregon is settled.  Debora flies to
 Portland, produces documentation of her
 parenthood, and wins an amazing Oregon state
 court order (based on foolishly inadequate laws)
 to regain custody.  In carrying out its lawful
 order, the Multnomah County Sheriff arms its
 deputies against former Ranger John's
 proclaimed duty to rid America of "bad" people,
 and, in a three minute pre-dawn raid, rescues Amy
 and returns her to Debora.  Only John's
 pride is hurt.  

Debora and Amy retire to a cabin above
 Multnomah Falls to await the legal denouement,
 where Debora uses a digital camera and
 Microsoft Photo Editor to create doctored
 "photos" of Amy ostensibly happy to be back
 with her Mom.  John sees this as confirmation of
 his previously undocumented claims of poor
 parenting, proclaiming no decent parent would
 use a Microsoft product in the company of
 minors.

All these weeks the Oregonian keeps the story on
 the front page, but the public is tiring.  Is this
 because they have no HEART, or because they
 do, and are merely siding with the parent over
 the rescuer?  

Is someone sniffing the poppies on the way to
 The Emerald City?!

        - Michael J. Crowley  
    Bomber-might-of-been - '66
 
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Subj:   The Best President In Your Life Time
From:   Andrew Eckert (54)
ECKERT1108@aol.com
 
Nowadays, as I find I never seem to have any
 time to respond to the rantings and the hate
 writings of the extreme right, or more
 appropriately called, vicious right.  I'm always
 heartened to read what most reflects my
 sentiments, written by Mr. Marc Franco.  We
 apparently think somewhat alike and obviously
 both are very intolerant of the writings from one
 of the kings of sleazy, hate filled, writings. That
 would be the rantings and ravings of one John
 Allen.  This man epitomizes the group who have
 such hatred and envy of the Clinton's that no
 matter what happens in this world, they will find
 a way to blame the Clinton's.

Thank you. Marc. for taking the time to rebut his
 hatred, showing me as well as everyone that
 there are still people with some sense of decency
 and with some rational clarity of thought.  Bill
 Clinton is and has been the very best president in
 your life time, John Allen. Choke on that.  

                    - Andrew Eckert (54)

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Subj:   Fair and Balanced and 100% Correct? 
From:   Paul Webster `56
BabLen@aol.com

I have not had the opportunity to read the
 Sandbox as often as my wife so I was quite
 interested in the format.  The thing I find most
 fascinating is how fair and balanced the letters
 are.  I am amazed at how blessed we were in
 Richland to be endowed with the intellectual
 honesty to be 100% correct on any subject we
 decide to write about.  Clearly, after reading a
 conservative based letter in the Sandbox the
 liberals on any given issue see the light and under
 go an immediate conversion to the conservative
 point of view and the conservative upon reading
 a pro Liberal piece disavow all their past
 baggage and endorse the Gore ticket in order
 allow this great nation to continue with the Bill
 and Hillary legacy of big government.  Since I
 have been away from Eastern Washington for
 such a long period I find myself suffering from
 intellectual doubt on some issues, albeit very
 few.  Is it possible that Fish or Power, Elian's fate
 in the United States, or any of the special interest
 presentations I have read may have more than
 one correct answer?  God forbid.  Would I be a
 communism because I believe the Cuban boy
 should be with his surviving parent?  Or should
 we require the Pro Power group to spawn with
 the salmon to better understand their plight? 
 Having said all of this it reminds me of a quote I
 keep over my desk that I am forced to look at
 when I believe I have all the answers to very
 devise issues.

      ("Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes 
your time and annoys the pig.")        
                    - Paul Webster (56)
     
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THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #64 ~ May 27, 2000

 "They say a reasonable amount of flees is good
 fer a dog--- keeps him from broodin' over bein' a
 dog," 
 
          - Richard Bethell, Lord Westbury
                        (1800-1873)


Look Who's Talking Today!

     "It is a well known fact that our founding
 fathers went to great lengths to eliminate the
 privileged class such as the royals and nobility. 
 However, in recent years the Congress has been
 working very hard to defeat that notion...They
 have now taken on the airs of Dukes and
 Duchesses."

                    - Lee Johnson '55

     "We had something great in Richland, ... Our
 churches were "United Protestant". Our teachers
 were of a quality beyond compare. We could
 leave our doors unlocked and our bicycles laying
 on the front yard. We could stay out until
 midnight on those warm summer nights."

                  - Jay Siegel '61

     "Discovery has a momentum of its own and
 the only difference, [had we not gotten there
 first,] would be that the Nuclear Age would have
 started in another country, probably Japan, which
 even had a bomber on the drawing board  to
 deliver their weapon a one-way distance to New
 York City."

                         Burt Pierard '59

                                ~ ~ ~

      "Elian's mother lost her life trying to bring her
 son to a country where he would be able to have
 some personal "rights." ... Politics had NO
 business being involved in this "family matter."

            Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy, '65

                              ~ ~ ~


     "A big brown bear is entering the clearing just
 a few yards from me.  He's sitting down now,
 looking around.  Must be about 450 lbs or so. 
 He seems to be taking an interest in me."

                        - Al Parker '53

                            ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
                     
The SANDBOX, Issue #64, Salutes:
 The Col-Hi/RHS Class of 1964
 To get to the '64 Home Page, go to:                    

All-Bomber-Links-
    http://www.bigfoot.com/~RichlandBombers
    When you click on 1964, you will find:

Class of '64 Grade School Pictures and links to:
 The Year 1964,  20th, 25th, 30th, 35th,  Year
 Reunions, Pictures &  Stuff , 35th Year Reunion
 Memory Book Update and Some '64 gatherings.

Also, go to the Then And Now ~ Website by
 Terry Liechty to see Before and After pictures of
 1964 Class members and other great pictures.

The '64 Home Page is maintained by Maren
 Smyth, '64. 

Maren maintains sites for a lot of other
 classes also, and could use a hand with some of
 them!  Let her know if you are interested in
 helping out!  Mail to: Vegas68@cheerful.com

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Here's more of what we're talking about today:

Subj:   Congress:  Extra Special People?
From:   Lee Johnson '55
BeegByte@aol.com

I must take up my pen and support Maren's
 assertion that the Congress has set themselves
 up as extra special people.  One of the many 
 things is by having an exclusive, overly generous
 retirement scheme designed to enrich themselves
 at public expense.

It is a well known fact that our founding fathers
 went to great lengths to eliminate the privileged
 class such as the royals and nobility.  However,
 in recent years the Congress has been working
 very hard to defeat that notion by setting
 themselves separate from a number of  laws and
 dipping into the public funds.  They have now
 taken on the airs of Dukes and Duchesses.
  
                     - Lee Johnson '55

                               ~ ~ ~ 

Subj:   Why the guilt?
From:   Jay Siegel '61
jazfuchsias@prodigy.net

RE: "The Nuclear Age: Our Heritage?"
       by Verla Farrens Gardner (61)
       (As seen in issue #62 or The SANDBOX)

No Verla, there is no need for us to ask for His
 forgiveness for having been a part of the
 manufacture of one of the bombs dropped on
 Japan nor for the part played in ushering in the
 "Nuclear Age".

I spent many years stationed in Iwakuni, Japan
 only about 20 k from Hiroshima. I have met
 people who were there when the bomb was
 dropped, people who lost relatives and people
 who had no connection other than being
 Japanese. I have been spat upon, cursed at,
 hugged and shared tears with Japanese
 Nationals. The loss of life and property was sad-
 but the number of lives saved was miraculous! It
 was summed up for me by a retired Japanese
 Major: I had met his daughter at an English Club
 that I taught at and was invited over to their
 home for dinner. I was met at the gate to their
 yard by her mother who told me that it was not
 possible for me to have dinner there. We went
 down and had dinner there. As we talked, I was
 told that her father, who had been in the Army
 during the war would not allow Americans into
 the house. Our friendship continued and her
 mother attended some of the English Club
 meetings. The Japanese decided to throw a party
 for the last meeting that I attended before we
 rotated back to the States. Hiroko and her
 mother were there, accompanied by a very
 distinguished gentleman - I guessed him to be her
 father. As we sat talking, English Clubs were
 actually coffee klatches, Hiroko came up with
 her father and introduced us. I bowed and then
 extended my hand to shake hands (it was our
 club's symbol of the joining of the cultures). He
 paused, then extended his hand to me, and with
 tears in his eyes and in very broken English made
 this statement to me: "I have been a fool! I have
 blamed you for my own stupidity! I could not
 accept that the act that my country committed
 against yours was neither justified nor
 reasonable. I could not accept that, by attacking
 Pearl Harbor, we committed a grievous act that
 could only be interpreted by the people of the
 United States as a most dishonorable thing! Yet
 you and most of the United States Marines here
 in Iwakuni have forgiven us!

By dropping  the bombs on Hiroshima and
 Nagasaki, you saved my life and the lives of most
 of our military, we were already planning a final
 and honorable stand to the death on our Home
 Land. I, my wife and children are alive today
 because of those horrible days. The losses were
 sad, I lost friends that day (when the bomb was
 dropped on Hiroshima), but I now know that
 single act was one of the most honorable ever
 performed by man. Please accept my humble
 thanks and forgive me my arrogance."

I can no longer remember his name, only the
 strength and courage that he showed. I wanted
 to hug him, but instead bowed and told him in
 Japanese that he was welcome. He and his wife
 left shortly thereafter, but Hiroko told me that he
 had spent the past three months learning the
 English in order to put his feelings into words
 that I could understand. I have stored them in my
 heart forever, and when I see demonstrators in
 Japan or the States complaining about Hiroshima
 and Nagasaki, in bring up the image of that man
 and know "the rest of the story".

As for the ecological mess that has been created
 at Hanford: that too will pass. As man grows in
 skills and technology, we tend to focus upon the
 immediate results - that is human. We try to
 foresee any impact upon our world, but we are,
 alas, nearsighted. It is not just with radioactive
 materials, it is with everything. But by realizing
 the good - the number of cancer patients whose
 lives have been saved by radiation treatment, for
 instance; and working to eliminate the bad, we
 will continue to grow.

I hold those memories of early Richland precious
 because they were very special - more idyllic
 than many lives, but special because we were
 given an insight into what is possible for a
 community to be like. The saddest part is that the
 world continues to drift away from that existence
 that we knew. There is too little forgiveness and
 to much recrimination.

We had something great in Richland, something
 that was caused by "the product". Our churches
 were "United Protestant". Our teachers were of a
 quality beyond compare. We could leave our
 doors unlocked and our bicycles laying on the
 front yard. We could stay out until midnight on
 those warm summer nights.

Our goal should be to pass those good things on
 to our children and their children. The bad is
 there, just as there is evil in the world. It is not to
 be ignored, but neither should it be honored by
 making it more important than the good.

God gave us this world to oversee - He knew that
 we would do a terrible job of it, but He had
 enough faith in us to keep us around. He didn't
 have to save Noah and his family but He did. We
 need to make use of the tools that He gave us: an
 open mind and a loving heart. We need to try to
 make this world more like that Richland.

We have seen what the future can be: what we do
 with that insight is up to us. 

                      - Jay Siegel (61)

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Subj:   A Richland Bomber and Proud of It
>From   Burt Pierard '59
BPierard98@aol.com

RE: "The Nuclear Age: Our Heritage?"
       by Verla Farrens Gardner (61)
       (As seen in issue #62 or The SANDBOX)

The overall tone of your submission appears to
 promote the preposterous concept that if the
 Manhattan Project had not occurred, somehow
 the Nuclear Age would not have happened.  In
 light of the fact that 3 other countries (Germany,
 Japan & USSR) were simultaneously working on
 the same objective, it is absurd to assume that
 scientific discovery would have stopped if the
 U.S. had not participated.  Discovery has a
 momentum of its own and the only difference
 would be that the Nuclear Age would have
 started in another country, probably Japan, which
 even had a bomber on the drawing board to
 deliver their weapon a one-way distance to New
 York City.

I, for one, am sick and tired of people trying to
 make me ashamed of my devoutly patriotic
 parents for uprooting their lives and moving to
 Hanford Camp (1944) with all the basic living
 hardships, to work on an "important war job"
 (quote from the duPont recruiting booklet).  My
 Dad rapidly became a community activist,
 embarking on many projects to improve morale
 in Richland Village and make the community
 more "livable."  These projects included, among
 other things, Charity Drives, War Bond Sales
 Drives, Richland Days Parade Chairman, and
 building The Co-Ordinate Club clubhouse to
 provide a social club for the non-Corps of
 Engineers (they had the Castle Club) residents.

I am not only, not ashamed of my parents and
 town, but I'm damn proud of them and the whole
 unique experience.

In response to your statement about crime in
 Richland, I originally assumed you came to town
 after the essentially crime-free early days of the
 40's & 50's (before the turnover & influx of
 outsiders) but I've been informed by somebody
 who knew you that you were here and should
 have remembered (maybe a Senior Moment?). 
 In any event, the official crime statistics for
 1945, 1946, & 1947 were: zero murders or
 major crimes of violence, one traffic fatality,
 juvenile delinquency 70% below the national
 average, zero relief roll, no vagrants and two
 suicides.  The most remarkable statistic is that
 the City's two jail cells never held a prisoner.

I'm sorry your Richland experience was such a
 bummer and you feel you must conceal your
 origin, but for me, I'm a RICHLAND BOMBER
 and proud of it.

                     - Burt Pierard (59) 

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Subj:   Why Did They Have To Interfere? 
From:   Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy, '65
Me12147@aol.com

Concerning the matter of Elian Gonzalas, I only
 want to ask, WHY the government, Reno, & the
 INS felt it necessary to interfere at all?! In my
 humble opinion, Elian's mother lost her life trying
 to bring her son to a country where he would be
 able to have some personal "rights." The fact that
 he survived when his mother didn't makes me
 believe that her wishes for her son's safety should
 have been considered first and foremost. She
 gave her life so that Elian would have a chance
 for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I
 can think of absolutely no instances where the
 "head" of a country, and the powers that be in
 another country, have stepped to the forefront
 and DEMANDED the right to decide what is
 best for this young boy, or any other child. This
 was/is a civil matter that should've had the
 chance to be decided by Elian's FAMILY, not
 the governments of either country! For Reno to
 claim that they had no other options is/was bull
 puckey. If the father is this wonderful, warm, and
 loving parent that the governments of two
 countries are trying to sell us on, then WHY did
 it take four months for him to voice any concern
 about having his son returned? What kind of
 circumstances can any of us conceive of that
 would bring two governments well into the
 limelight to correct? Would Clinton or any other
 president of this here United States of America
 DEMAND the return of one of our children if
 the rolls were reversed? I think not. Politics had
 NO business being involved in this "family
 matter." 
                 
    -  Mari (Leona Eckert) Leahy, class of 1965

                                 ~ ~ ~

Subj: I Have Fond Memories of Richland and 
Washington State, But Pennsylvania Ain't Too Bad!
From: Al Parker '53
Adamstreet@aol.com

I'm enjoying my first prelude to summer here
 in Western Pennsylvania, having recently moved
 here from Washington State. How unique and 
 wonderful it is to me to see wild turkeys
 running across the road, deer chasing each other
 across the driveway, ducks coming up from the
 river to be fed, wild rabbits gathering in the yard.
 Chipmunks are all over the place and I am
 watching lanky black squirrels jumping from tree
 to tree as I rest in this carpeted fern-laden forest
 mixed with conifers, oak, maple and other
 deciduous growth.  Wild flowers abound.  Blue
 Jays, woodpeckers, robins, and tiny red-winged
 things are maneuvering, knocking on wood, and
 flitting about. Sunlight streams down filtered,
 through the leaves and branches overhead while
 bird songs fill the air. A hawk is soaring high
 above and humming birds are hovering. 

Dusk is drawing near.  Soon I will hear a rousing
 chorus of frogs and crickets emanating from
 down the river a piece.  One night soon, I will
 view the lightning bugs with delight and
 wonderment.  Perhaps, when they come, I shall
 capture some of their light in my hand.  

Awesome!  A big brown bear is entering the
 clearing now, just a few yards from me.
 Must weigh about 450 pounds. He's sitting
 down now, looking around.  He seems to be
 taking an interest in me... 

Bye...gotta go now!

                       - Al Parker '53

Thank you everyone for you interest and con-
 tributions, and thank you also for all the items
 you've already sent for Issue number 65 of The
 SANDBOX!

Please include your class year, first name, former
 last name (if changed), and current last name
 with all submissions and (on or off) subscription
 requests and send them to: 

            sandbox@richlandbombers.com

            With great regard for all of you,
            -Al Parker '53
           Your Sandbox Moderator In Residence
            (Or something like that.)

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