Like tiny grains of SAND, we are scattered all over the world, even as we gather here! Welcome to THE SANDBOX Issue # 3 ~ October 17, 1998 ============================================== Today's Honorary SANDBOX Subtitle Is:THE ONLINE SPUDNUT SHOP Acknowledging the many hours of conversation and bonding that has continued over the years between so many of us in Richland's legendary Spudnut Shop. Most of us can't get to The Spudnut Shop every day, but we can always meet right here! ------------------------------------------------------- If you would like to offer an idea for a one-time or rotating SANDBOX Subtitle, send your suggestions To: Adamstreet@aol.com Subject: Subtitle ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: Barbara Chandler, BCHANBCJR@aol.com Thank you for a forum to spout off, to go within, to speak out, to get out those things that we all have in our hearts and sometimes don't have that "someone" to speak them to. I have been very moved by this, our second, edition and vote to keep it working, moving, in our lives. Thank you all for your contributions. I am listening and learning. Also, I would like to suggest that all who can, visit the Vietnam memorial in DC. It is the most beautiful memorial I have ever visited. Not any of my close relatives or friends died in Vietnam, but to see and read the names, to see and read the letters that people leave there is a heart rendering experience and one it is very important to have. Take Care, Barbara Chandler. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: MEHINGE@gcpud.org (Marcia Ehinger) Thank you. ---------- You're welcome! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subj: Why we dropped the [second] bomb. From: Ray Stein (64) Reply-to: firstname.lastname@example.org After reading Robert Shipp's contribution about whether the U.S. should have dropped a second bomb on Nagasaki, I remembered something I read about events surrounding the decision to drop the first bomb. This information is from "The Blunder Book" by M. Hirsh Goldberg. "The Japanese were upset about Truman's call for unconditional surrender, so they decided to forego responding for the present to the unconditional surrender terms, hoping further diplomatic moves might bring about the negotiated peace they desired. In their statement to the world press they used the word "mokusatsu," which can mean (1) to ignore, or (2) to refrain from comment. The Japanese translator mistakenly used the first meaning and wrote that Japan would "ignore" the demand for unconditional surrender. American leaders were incensed that Japan would "ignore" their unconditional surrender terms. Although the mistranslation was not the only cause of the increasing friction of the time, it spurred an escalation of tension between the U.S. and Japan. Less than two weeks later, on 8/6/45, the U.S. dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima." (The above is condensed from the book) -Ray Stein ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: Steve Carson (58) SteveNitro@aol.com The arguments about the symbols we used on our school rings and publications seem tame by today's standards. We were proud of the role Richland played in ending the Second World War and, for us, the mushroom cloud symbolized the saving of the lives that would have been lost in a protracted campaign to take the Japanese Mainland. The Bombers of later generations, being more "Sensitive" and not understanding our era, are free to do what they want with the exception of changing our history. Does anyone remember the "strike" in 57 or 58 as we rebelled against the administration because they wouldn't let us wear Bermuda shorts. Serious stuff. Steve Carson (58) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: Barbara Seslar Brackenbush '60 email@example.com (Brackenbush) Al Parker: I am not a legal type but I want to thank you for your response regarding the Monicagate (Billgate?) issue. I think it was well said. Jinnie Stephens: On aging parents driving - my parents are 78 and my father has had to give up driving and my mother drives a little but prefers to leave the driving to someone else. Fortunately, my sister is usually available which really helps the situation. In fact, there are three of us sisters who are willing to respond when they need something. I was amazed that your parents are still able to drive at 80 and 85! I still have a grandmother living at 95 but she could in no way drive (in fact, she neverdid learn). You must come from very good stock! :) Barbara Seslar Brackenbush 1960, Richland ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subject: Driving Privileges From: Mina Jo Gerry Payson (68) firstname.lastname@example.org In Reply to Jinnie Stevens re driving privileges: We in the "sandwich generation" with senior parents and children still at home know exactly where you are coming from. My own mother is 70 and I have refused to be a passenger when she is driving for at least the last 10 years. In her case, I think she is overly defensive in her approach to the road, plus she learned to drive an automatic with one foot on the gas and one on the brake. That makes for interesting trips. It is the worst thing you can ask of a senior, to give up their keys. Our parents were raised not to be a burden on anyone, even their children, who are willing to take on the task. In the desire to remain independent, they loose sight of common sense. There is no answer to this problem. There is no exact time when a person is no longer fit to drive. It varies from person to person along with health and mental faculties. My neighbor, at about 82, took a driving test three times before he passed and is still in possession of his license at 85. But how do you tell someone that they areno longer allowed to have the freedom to come and go? I wish there was an easy answer. [Mrs. John Dam, of Richland, when I knew her, probably in her late 80's, had some limitations, but was "licensed" to drive during daylight hours within the city limits. That enabled her to run errands, go to the doctor and get items like groceries on her own. -ap ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subj: Dupus Boomer From: email@example.com (Mike Bradley) '56 Hi everyone. If anyone knows where I could get a copy of the Dupus Boomer book I would certainly appreciate it. For the younger set, Dupus Boomer was a cartoon character that appeared in either the Columbia Basin News or the Tri-City Herald which depicted humorous happenings in our fair town. The book was compiled from all of these cartoons. -Mike Bradley [Seems like the son of the Dupus Artist and Author was in my class at Col-Hi... trying to remember his name. I certainly remember enjoying those great cartoons, myself, many of them involving the roofs being blown off of prefab houses by the infamous "termination" Richland-Hanford winds. --ap] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >From Joe Largé, JosephDan@aol.com To: firstname.lastname@example.org Dear Rick: I enjoyed your poem. It is very thought provoking. I was one of those people that ended up with mixed emotions -being for the war and yet also against. Although I hated the war, I felt that the soldier was the victim, having being let down by a government that was attempting to walk a tightrope of appeasement and not willing to get it done and over! We suffered the same things in Korea, and the soldier suffered. In my opinion, you did not receive a "hero's welcome" because we were all victims in some respect of that war. We were all injured in some way. We all sat around licking our wounds. I regret heartily that you didn't have a hero's welcome when you returned. I can't help - now - but look upon the Vietnam Vet with a sense of deep respect, both for being the one in the front-line and for also having to endure the hell that you came home to, not to mention the whole issue of Agent Orange and those who have to endure a Government that won't even support you in this! For all that happened there, The Vietnam Vet is one that should be held in Honor. -Joe Largé JosephDan@AOL.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subj: Robin Cody Book From: RMat683939 What's in the sand? Find out in a wonderful book by Robin Cody called; Voyage of a Summer Sun. The entire book is worth the reading, but chapter 11 lands him in the Hanford reaches to the class reunion of the Bombers of the class of 70, at the Shilo Inn. In his book, he canoes from high in the Canadian Rockies and follows the currents of the mighty Columbia, even noses into the Yakima a bit. So, get it in your local library, if they don't have, they can get. Bombed Bob 64 Al Parker asks Bob: Was Cody a member of the class of 70, or did he just "float in" and crash the party? Bob answers: No, he isn't a Bomber, just floated into the Hanford reaches, mentioned the wildlife, warning signs posted along the shores, and meeting some outspoken people in a complex culture of a strange community. My daughter's class at Portland State is using the book in their studies. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Vern Blanchette Class of 64, email@example.com writes: Okay, whose idea was it to name the place where ex- Bombers express their opinions after the device used to allow cats to ... ah... well... take care of their needs? Was that a sly attempt to cast an opinion about our opinions? How about we change the name to the "Target". (Bombers drop their ideas on 'target'... get it??) Until then I have only one thing to say... meyowwwwww! As for my opinion, I think you guys are all aliens disguised as Richland Bombers and you are trying to mess with my mind. You remind me of the man driving down the road at 55 mph when a chicken zoomed by him. He followed it down a farm road into a barnyard where stood anotherfarmer. "Did you see that really fast chicken?" the man asked. "Yup."the farmer replied. That's one of the three legged chickens my wife and I bred in order to get more drumsticks." The man complemented thefarmer on his success and then asked "Do the drumsticks taste good?" The farmer quickly replied... "Can't tell. Haven't been able to catch one yet." Well, I'm off to catch a three legged chicken. Our Loving Father's peace to you all and may all your opinions be "on target". Vern Blanchette Class of 64 (the best!) Hey, Vern... 1. Wattayamean, "you guys?' Aren't you one of us? 2. The SANDBOX is not a Cat Box. The Sand In The Box is Us and I sure don't want your cats doing Either Number on me. 3.. May all your cats hit the right "targets" in your house. (Cats can be bombers, too!) 4. Only those of us who have no belly buttons are aliens who have flown to this planet from outer space. The rest of us are walk-ons. 5. You just stole my favorite chicken joke. 6. Loved ya in "Vern Goes to Summer Camp!" (Know what I mean, Vern?) Just joking! 6. Thanks for joining the fun! 7. Alright, people... any more chicken jokes, anyone? Or duck jokes? Or pig jokes? Or thirsty rope jokes? Counter attack! But please, keep your jokes under 200 words! -ap ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Creede Lambard writes: Ann McCue Hewett mentioned places we've lived that were pretty high up onthe list of where the bombs would fall. Some days it seems like that could be pretty much anywhere in the West. I lived for several years in the Billings, Montana area. Someone once told me that the big rail yards just west of Billings were on the list for obvious reasons (disrupting transportation). Seattle of course is no doubt marked because of the Boeing plants. I also lived in Austin, Texas for several years but don't remember there being much in Austin in the way of defense industries, except maybe for the microprocessor fabrication plants. The Houston area and its refineries would certainly have been hit. Actually, though, come to think of it the Austin area might have gotten a disproportionate amount of protection because Lady Byrd Johnson lives there! Hard to say. -- Creede ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don Ehinger (55) Couple of thoughts and opinions on the bomb topic I went into the navy in Jan of 55 and went almost immediately to Japan for a 2-year tour. One of the first things I saw upon arriving at the naval base in Yokosuka was a hollowed out mountain. Insidethe mountain was a huge industrial complex with machine shops, staging areas and bunkers. When I arrived in Sasebo, where I was to be stationed, one of the first things Isaw were concrete bunkers, built into the hillsides and positioned defend against invasion either from the beaches or roadways. As time went on I had opportunity to hike into the countryside and the here again the hills were honeycombed with a maze of tunnels where people could fight and defend their position. The hills between Sasebo and Nagasaki hadmany bunker and storage areas that would have been suicide to try to capture, and there was no way around them. After living as a gai jin in that country, at that time, I have no doubt that hundreds of thousands of lives would have been lost had we sent troops to invade. Not that they were bad or evil people, it was for them, a matter of defending their homes and country. It has been my experience that cultures in that part of the world are very homogenous and nationalistic andwould defend their country to the end. Just as we would. One of my coworkers, who had been to Japanese language school, and I would ometimes take a weekend and visit some of the rural villages had occasion to spend a weekend in a small fishing village, not far from Nagasaki. In small villages there were usually one or two residences, that had room enough and would provide lodging for visitors. In this village the local Inn, was owned by a man that also owned several fishing boats, and had been the captain of a destroyer escort vessel during the war. We spent two nights there with he and his wife. Over some sake and orange vodka (ughhhh!) we had some interesting discussions of what might have been, if the war had ended differently. One of the things he said, that I have always remembered, when discussions of the bomb come up, is that the Japanese people had fared much better than they had expected, and much better than Americans would have if the war had gone the other way. We watched the Sumo championship matches at the local stand bar, who had the only TV in the village, got totally smashed and came away with a better understanding of what might have been if it hadn't been for the bomb. I've seen what the bomb did to Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the sand and dirt melted to glass, and imprints left by bodies. Even though it was more than 10 years after it happened and most of the debris had been cleaned up, it is something you will never forget after having seen it. At that time there were research hospitals at Nagasaki and Hiroshima where studies were being conducted on the patients suffering from long term effects of the bombs. I had opportunity to observe some of the patients when one of the ships I was stationed on made a goodwill stop at Nagasaki. The ship was opened to visitors, and a bus load of patients from the hospital came to tour the ship. Many of those people suffered from cancer and carried the scars and disfigurements resulting from injuries suffered during the blast. I remember one elderly man that was standing up on the bow looking at anchor windlass and the huge links in the anchor chain. When he turned, one side of his face was missing and there were large areas of skin that appeared to be covered with thick layers of burn scar tissue. Really not a very pleasant sight. While it was a terrible thing to do, I have no doubt that it saved hundreds of thousands of lives, on both sides. I'm all for getting rid of such weapons, but.... as long as there are the Sadam Husseins and the Slobodan Milosovich's of the world, I want to be sure that they have gotten rid of theirs before we get rid of ours. And that, I think, is a sad commentary on human nature. As for the bomber and mushroom cloud logo's let it be a reminder for how it might have been and the way it is today. You're alive, I'm alive, we have it much better than our parents, and while the world isn't perfect it's better than it used to be. I wish every American could spend some time in a foreign country. It's enlightening. It seems like every country suffers from bad leadership from time to time. We are fortunate that ours has been better than most. And that's a whole discussion in itself. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: SLBURBAGE@aol.com My husband works in the plywood industry and we have been trying to think of some ways to earn more money for our retirement. Thanks to all of you I now have an idea. Steve can get me plywood at cost and I can make a bunch ofsoapboxes. I will paint them green with a gold "RHS." If you order one, I will also paint the year you graduated on another side. As soon as I can comeup with a fair price, I'll let you all know. To Bob DeGraw -I didn't know my sister had taken a trip to Alaska but it sure sounds like her!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Art Hughes, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: Subj: Censure It may be news to some people that there is no legal provision for anything called censure for alleged crimes. The only legal options open to Congress are either nothing or impeachment proceedings. Censure is just a neat idea for ignoring the real facts of felony charges. What most people forget isthat the act of having relations with a subordinate that you have managerial authority over, consensual or not, is considered sexual harassment under federal law and any corporate executive having such relations can be sued or fired for this infraction. Many, in fact, are fired for this every year when something goes wrong in their little inappropriate relations." -Tom Hughes, Class of 56 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gene Gower, email@example.com writes: The message from Bob Degraw sounded just like the lady that he described on the bus. Bob... LIGHTEN UP! Gene Gower ('82) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subj: Censure is the last thing Mr. Clinton needs. From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Tony Sharpe) Al, Great reply to the "Clinton Apologist" remarks of your classmate Norma. Censure is the last thing that Mr. Clinton needs. What America needs is for Mr. Clinton to show the same respect that Richard Nixon had for the office of the Presidency had and resign!! But alas, I do not believe he has the courage to do so, because he has not demonstrated that he is one to accept responsibility for his actions.The simple fact is that our President committed A CRIME when he lied under oath about his sexual affair, n the oval office, with a twenty-one year old intern. It is irrelevant that the lie took place in a Civil Lawsuit deposition. This affair and the cover up that followed only reveal the worst elements of Mr. Clinton's public and private character, reckless and irresponsible private behavior, habitual lying, and abuse of power. This man has defiled the "Office of the Presidency of the United States." What he has done DOES constitute injury to society itself as Alexander Hamilton wrote. The character of our President matters just as much as the economy. No one is above the Law, and the President must play by the rules. Adultery is a big deal, it shouldn't be commonplace, and yes I will hold my President to a higher standard! It is not okay to lie under oath under any circumstance I refuse to accept any Apologist argument that defines Americans down. I will not accept a lower common denominator of leadership than the American Presidency requires. As William Bennett writes: "These arguments about Mr. Clinton's current problems represent an assault on American ideals, and they must no take root in American Soil." Do us all a favor "Say Goodnight," Bill. Tony Sharpe ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: "Dan G. Day"
Organization: Chemical Professionals, Inc. Re: Clinton's future. I would hope that he receives the same treatment as the LA police officer (Mark Ferman) who was convicted of perjury and fired for his denial that he had ever used the "N" word. Not likely to rise to the level of embarrassment that Monica has caused Bill. Bill committed a greater offense and had a greater reason to lie. Ferman's little lie was sufficient to be prosecuted as perjury becausehe embarrassed his department. (Read that Politically motivatedprosecution.) Clinton should suffer the same fate. Dan Day(62) P.S. As for his actions causing immediate harm to the Nation, IT HAS! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bombers, Please Note: If you have sent something that hasn't appeared in The SANDBOX yet, look for it appear in another Issue in just a few days. Your participation has been so great that some of your valued opinions, ideas and thoughts are still waiting in the hopper to be entered into a future edition soon. Because of YOUR tremendous response and the number of submissions coming in every day, I may need to return items over 400 words in length and ask you to condense them for us. I hope this doesn't happen often because I would rather spend my time "spreading" your good words than "counting" them! Thanks for your consideration and help! Also, if you have sent several separate comments in at once, I may spread them out over several issues of The SANDBOX. Enjoy life! -Al Parker ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NEXT? Did any of the comments in this issue of The SANDBOX strike a cord, or discord with you? Do you want to talk back? Do you have something to add? What we talk about here, Fellow Bombers, is entirely up to you. In the SANDBOX, you may argue passionately, satirically, or hysterically on almost any subject without interruption unless you go way beyond 200 words, say something a little too prurient, or rudely curse. You can admonish, cajole, or joke. You can try to poke holes in someone else's views, if you wish. Whether hilarious or serious, IF WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY IS WORTH SAYING ANYWHERE, IT'S WELL WORTH SAYING HERE! Adamstreet@aol.com is YOUR ADDRESS for SPEAKING OUT! How often The SANDBOX comes to a screen near YOU Depends ENTIRELY ON How OFTEN I hear from YOU. So Step Right Up, Partner. YOU are in the SANDBOX next! -Al Parker (53) Send Your Impressions and Expressions to: Adamstreet@aol.com. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Want to be Inspired? Check this site out: http://www.empowerment-now.com/inspiration/motivators/ -3-