The RICHLAND ALUMNI SANDBOX
                Issue #4 ~ October 30 1998
        Point & Counterpoint / Humor / Free Advice

We are the children of a city that built a bomb that
ended a war. We are the Richland Bombers, graduates of
Columbia / Richland High School, Richland Washington,
USA.  We shared hopes and dreams then.  We share hopes
and dreams now.  And we have some concerns.

Though scattered as drifting sand throughout the world,
we are gathered together Today In THE SANDBOX, in order
to express and share some hopes, some dreams, some
humor, and all manner of current concerns.  The Bomber
Spirit Lives!

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PLEASE NOTE: BECAUSE OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF YOUR
CONTRIBUTIONS, NOT ALL ITEMS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR
THIS ISSUE OF THE SANDBOX WERE ABLE TO BE INCLUDED THIS
TIME.  ISSUE #5, EXPECTED TO BE READY IN ABOUT TWO DAYS
WILL CARRY THE REMAINDER. After you receive Issue #5,
Please let me know if something you have sent has not
appeared yet.  Thanks. Al Parker. Adamstreet@aol.com

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Patty Stordahl, Patty@exhibitd.com writes:

Hats off to all the volunteers for this project.  I
think it will prove very interesting.  I really love
lively debates & appreciate how others share their
views.  I think that this will open a lot of peoples
eyes to new ways of rethinking old problems.  Maybe
together we can solve some of the issues at hand.
Thanks & I will be reading this one for sure.  Probably
participating as I am an activist in my own right. I
think it is called a soap box queen.  This will also
bring out the real thinkers & the correct information.
Anxious in Seattle
Patty Stordahl

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Subj:    The bomb
Date:   10/18/98 5:06:51 PM PST
From:   teresam@oneworld.owt.com (Teresa Morgan) (Class of 73)

RE:  Don Ehinger (55) Couple of thoughts and opinions
on the bomb topic Many good points you made.  I keep
having to remind certain friends of mine who haven't
grown up with some of the same influences that to
completely  understand history re: the why's we did
what we did not by hindsight, but by the state of mind
and the state of reality at that time.  Many men women
and children DID commit suicide rather than face being
captured by the our soldiers. All those tiny little
islands in the Pacific that took so many thousands of
American lives to gain control of a few square miles
shouldn't be forgotten.  The culture is different.  To
them it was an honor to die for country and emperor.
Our society values life itself.  How many men would
have armed their women and children with whatever
implement is available rather than give up a bit of
ground and regroup and attack.

It would have been a blood bath, trying to take the
Japanese mainland.  Keep in mind, too, that more people
were killed in the fire bombing of Dresden than in both
Atomic blasts.  True, many people were affected by the
radiation illness of their parents before they were
conceived.  Many died  after months of radiation
sickness. Dying from untreated burn wounds is no picnic
either.

War is rotten, no matter how you look at it.  We didn't
start that horrible war.  But how much more unfair is
it to our soldiers totell them that their lives are
less valuable than Japanese lives, because we don't
want to use a weapon we think might be inhumane, even
though we know it will end the war sooner.

One other thing:  folks have been insisting that we
apologize for using the bomb.  After all,  THEY
apologized for pearl harbor. The two are entirell
different.  Their attack was in time of peace during a
time of active negotiations.  We even warned them ahead
of time.  Entirely different, sez me.

---Teresa Cook Morgan, whose dad was on his way to his
second tour of duty in the Pacific after a "vacation"
in Germany and France

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Talking Point:  Does a lack of concern regarding
character imply a lack of character?

Talking Point: How many of our fathers would have died
without The Bomb; how many of their children not been
born?

From:   rbrewer@home.com (Rodney C. Brewer)

RE: Clinton.  He has no Character.  If you voted for
him, or support him today, you either don't know what
the word means, couldn't care lessand/or have no
character yourself.

RE: The Bomb(s).  If we don't drop the bomb, my Dad
goes in to Japan, with a few others, to end the war on
the ground, and probably doesn't return.  You'll never
get me to apologize for doing everything possible to
win that war.  Rod Brewer

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Alan Sargent  yo11@telisphere.com writes"

Many have commented how unique it was too grow up in
Richland.  I agree!  But, as I look back on it I am
struck by just how jaded my view may have been.  I
loved my childhood surrounded by good friends,
neighborhood parties, great hunting and fishing, never
having to lock the house or car and always feeling safe
and secure.  I sometimes wish my grandchildren had the
same luxury.  But in many ways (my own fault) I was
woefully prepared for real life.  I never questioned
the lack of blacks in Richland, then along came the
Brown brothers and showed us a new exciting brand of
Basketball.  Magically their family now lived in
Richland.  After graduation I attended UW and was not
prepared for such a huge school.  I was in a lecture
with more students than my graduating class and I knew
no one.  I ran and joined the Air Force and was
promptly sent to Texas.  I saw my first "Colored Only"
doorways, restrooms etc.  I truly did not know that
existed! To this day I continue to learn just how naive
and uninformed I allowed myself to be.  Oh well, you
live and learn.
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I was quite naive myself about "racial matters" in the
50's and 60's, Alan.  In 1956, while stationed at
Francis E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne Wyoming, I
saw for the first time a lot of businesses with signs
in windows and doors that said, "No Negroes Allowed.  I
had believed that kind of thing was only going on "down
south."  When I checked into a downtown hotel one time,
just to get off the base for a night, an Hispanic was
checking in just ahead of me.  The manager eyed him
suspiciously and asked, You are not trying to sneak any
niggers in here are you?"  He replied, "What?  No.  Of
course not.  You are insulting me, lady."  A couple of
years after graduating from the Air Force in 1960, one
of my AF buddies, a black man named Carl Jordan, came
to Richland to visit and stay with me for a few days.
Some people in Richland expressed "admiration" at my
"courage" for letting a black man stay in my house.
When Carl was in the AF he was a programmer-operator
for UNIVAC, one of the first really big computers used
in the late 50's by the Air Material Command.

At the time of his visit, Carl had a high paying job
with Boeing in Seattle.  One of the saddest things to
him about racial prejudice as he expressed it to me
then was how his black friends in "the old
neighborhood" looked down on him and scorned him for
trying to look like "Whitey" by being so successful. 
-Al Parker

After Thought: There is something else I just
remembered that Carl said to me during that visit with
me, just about 36 years ago. He knew about my interest
in writing and suggested that maybe someday I could get
involved in some kind of "forum" type venue that would
include feedback from others and an exchange of ideas,
insights and experience.  Thanks, Carl.  What a cool
idea!

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From:   ecb3@compuserve.com (Earl Bennett)
Responding to previous comments by Joe Large'

Right on!  While I qualify as a Vietnam era vet (USAF,
'65-'69), the closest I got to that conflict was the
island of Crete, in the middle of the Mediterranean.
The closest I came to combat was walking the fences of
Iraklion Air Station on Crete with a 45 on my hip (no
ammo -not designed to make one confident) on the night
watch after the Prince of Greece and his wife were
forced to flee the country and we weren't too sure how
good US relations would be with the new government.  In
theory the local police were supposed to take care of
any disturbances before they got to us, but I would not
have blamed them much had they been reluctant to side
with us against their own countrymen.  Anyway, I shared
a house with other vets in Seattle '70-'73, all
students at UW.  One of them was an Army radioman in
Vietnam, and in the three or so years I knew him I
watched him struggle with his attitudes, starting from
rabid pro-administration/pro-war, then slowly starting
to mellow and realize the administration wasn't
handling things too well and the military appeared to
be misrepresenting a few facts.  A thinking soldier has
a bit of a quandary to deal with.  On the one hand, the
only reasonable approach to preparing for combat is to
instill instant, unquestioning obedience in all
military personnel.  There has never been a war where
either party had the luxury of being able to explain
the legitimacy and rationale of every action to all
participants.  Yet afterwards, we find that some of the
decisions imposed upon us were not only ill advised,
but indefensible in light of all the facts..... This
could ramble on for a long time - Al, how can we treat
serious topics seriously in 200 words?  Anyway, we owe
a lot to those who were willing serve their country,
even when it wasn't socially acceptable to do so.  I
feel privileged to have been able to serve in some
small measure.  Later.  ecb3
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Thanks for sharing your valuable experiences and
personal insights, Earl.  Regarding the suggested word
limits of 200 - 400 words: The SANDBOX is intended to
be a Free Speech Forum, so let's see how we can do
without mandating word lengths, at least for now.  What
you said here, as an example, was done quite
effectively without any wasting of words at all, in my
view.  I would just remind everyone that keeping your
responses as short and to the point as possible while
still saying all you feel you need say on any given
subject will usually have the most POWERFUL IMPACT and
INTEREST to all who are reading your comments.  We can
often achieve this fairly easily by reading our "first
draft" and seeing which words or phrases we can
eliminate or change for greater effect.  Don't worry
about being professional journalists, though, folks.
This is a "family forum," not 60 Minutes or Meet The
Press.  I have already noted, however, that the quality
and depth of Richland Alumni contributions to The
RICHLAND ALUMNI SANDBOX often exceeds some of the stuff
I've seen offered by participants on many TV Forums, so
KEEP IT UP, EVERYONE! And Remember: If what you have to
say is worth saying anywhere, it's well worth saying
here! So tell us about your concerns, your feelings,
your hopes your dreams; things that bother you; things
that give you hope.  Or respond to something someone
else has said.      -Al Parker

Send What YOU HAVE TO SAY Today to: Adamstreet@aol.com

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Leo Bustad,  aflbb@UAA.ALASKA.EDU writes:

How long would the president of Stanford remain in
office after a similar non-sexual encounter with
someone like Ms. C. Clinton? How 'bout the commanding
officer of West Point, were he to have a similar affair
with a first year cadet and then lie to the Joint
Chiefs?  Just wondering how parents with young kids
explain this to their children.

Leo Bustad, Class of 64

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Subj:    Senior drivers
Date:   10/19/98 10:32:26 PM PST
From:   CPAWolf@compuserve.com (Fran Wolf)

To Jinnie Stephens: My father-in-law will be 90 on
November 28, 1998 - this year.  He is extremely anxious
about taking his next drivers license test.  His eyes
are good, but he requires a walker to get around.  In
July of this year he went out and bought a brand new
car.  The last trip my husband took with his father and
mother, father-in-law insisted he was going to drive
part way.  When he wasn't speeding over 85 (no joke)
m.p.h. he must have gotten bored and fell asleep at the
wheel.  This only happens on the highways, in-town he's
pretty good.  I could save him some anxiety - I've
already called the Dept. of Licensing - he won't be
getting another license.

On my brother Tom's behalf; HI to Robert Ship ( say HI
to Debby for me) and Vernon Blanchette.

-Fran (Teeple) Wolf

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BeegByte, a loyal Bomber Sympathizer and Friend, is our
guest today.  Although attending Richland schools in
his early years, Lee barely missed becoming a Bomber by
the unfortunate accident of moving with his parents to
another city before he could enroll at Col-Hi.  In his
heart, however, he has never been far away and has
always been a Bomber Fan and Athletic Supporter as you
will see in his letter below.

Just perused the third edition of the SANDBOX and
enjoyed it immensely.  I was hoping to see some witty
conversation from some of my childhood friends, but
alas…there was none. Today's edition, 10/17/98, of the
Tri-City Herald (that dirty yellow sheet) had a bold
headline on the front of the sports section,
Proclaiming "UNBEATEN PASCO KEEPS RICHLAND WINLESS."
And to rub salt in the wound they had a huge full color
picture of Pasco running with the football.  It is
apparent that winning is more important to Pasco than
showing some compassion for a team that has only known
shame and humiliation this season. Pasco is roughly
half the size of Richland; this just shows the world
how a few callous people can trample on the feelings of
many.  I am going to have the Columbia River rerouted
to the west side of Richland and Kennewick thus leaving
the Pasco waterfront high and dry.  Until that happens,
tollgates will soon be placed on the three bridges
linking the towns; only Pasco residents will have to
pay the toll.  We are also arranging with Rand-McNalley
to strike the name Pasco from their maps of Washington
State.  It is the duty of all Bombers and supporters to
boycott the Pasco textile mills, the automobile
assembly plants, and the cough drop stand on 3rd
street.  Until Pasco comes to its senses I remain yours
truly…Lee Johnson

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Stay tuned for more of the ongoing drama, "For Whom the
Bridge Tolls" and the ever-burning question on
everybody's mind, "Will The Spudnut Shop Validate Toll
Bridge tickets?"

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               VOTE  NO  ON PROPOSITION  YES

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Radioactive Ants, Flies and Gnats Reported at Hanford.

The radioactive ants, flies, and gnats at Hanford are
not a joke; they are real.  The news media across the
state and nation have reported this.

Irene Hays
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Do you think Irene is joking?  Well, see for yourself!
You can learn more about the above reported phenomenon
by referring to the following sites selected from the
Top Ten matches to the Web Search: [Hanford and
Radioactive and Flies] using AOL NetFind.

The Glowing Insects of Hanford Bug Spreading Radiation?
The Glowing Insects of Hanford & “Any contamination
outside a controlled radiation area is unacceptable.” —
Robert Shoup The Associated Press R I C H L A N D,
Wash., Oct. 7 - It  sounds like the plot of a 1950s
horror film: Bugs may be spreading radiation at the
Hanford nuclear reservation. Thirteen spots on the
former nuclear weapons...
http://www.abcnews.com/sections/science/DailyNews/radioactiv...

Aug. 30, 1997: Scientists' keen eyes find new
micromoths at  Hanford Other sources: This story was
published Aug. 30, 1997 By JOHN STANG Herald staff
writer Birds do it. Bees do it. Even teensy-weensy
little moths do it. This is a story of sex and science.
It's all about how scientists have found out Hanford is
home to nine previously undiscovered species of
micromoths.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/DOE/1997/aug44.html

Insects may be spreading radioactive contamination at
Hanford Insects may be spreading radioactive
contamination at Hanford 6.26 a.m. RICHLAND, Wash. (AP)
— It sounds like the plot of a 1950s horror film: Bugs
may be spreading radiation at the Hanford nuclear
reservation.
http://www.foxnews.com/news/wires2/1008/n_ap_1008_115.sml

UPDATE ON CONTAMINATION SPREADS GENERAL DELIVERY
MESSAGE October 7, 1998 TO: All FDH and Subcontractor
Company Employees FROM: Bob Shoup, vice president,
Environment, Safety and Health, FDH, AND Bob Frix,
president and general manager, DynCorp Tri-Cities
Services
http://www.hanford.gov/safety/conspread/announcements/100798...

seattletimes.com: WSU scientist finds new species at
Hanford WSU scientist finds new species at Hanford:
With occasional help, WSU scientist Richard Zack has
collected more than 40,000 insects in the largest
entomological survey in state history.
(seattletimes.com)
http://www.seattletimes.com/news/health-science/html98/altbu...

CONTAMINATION SPREAD OUTSIDE OF CONTROLLED AREAS
GENERAL DELIVERY MESSAGE October 8, 1998 All FDH and
Subcontractor Employees Bob Shoup, vice president,
Environment, Safety, Health, and Quality, FDH, and Bob
Frix, president and general manager, DynCorp Tri-Cities
Services
http://www.hanford.gov/safety/conspread/announcements/100898...

EXCLUSIVE SANDBOX QUESTIONS OF THE DAY:
What kind of threats might these radioactive little
critters pose to the public at large?  Will the gov. go
after them with a can of Raid or another billion or so
of your tax dollars?  Will radiation induced mutations
spawn new and exotic generations of bugs?

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bugs flies ants bugs flies ants bugs flies ants bugs flies angst

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Subj:    Re: Peggy Main
Date:   10/21/98 11:36:23 AM PST
From:   Patty@exhibitd.com (Patty Stordahl)

Dear Peggy & all.  This is after all the sand box.
What cats usually leave behind can be found here & a
lot of it.  From my understanding this was developed
for the more, let's say "intense" group.  I hope that
if I respond & someone has read my feelings whether
they are a bit extreme, respect my input no matter how
strong as I intend to respect others.  Fun, fluffy, &
memory shaking is on the other channel.  This one is
for strong debate & personal views no matter how direct
or misguided, mine included. Let's have a great time
getting to know the deeper side of the bombers & the
great people we have all become. I am ready.

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Send your impressions and expressions to:
Adamstreet@aol.com.  If what you have to say is worth
saying any where, it's well worth saying here!
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Note:  After Issue #5, If you sent something in and it
hasn't shown up in The SANDBOX yet please re-send if
you still have a copy. No one's contribution has been
left out intentionally, but there could have been some
items inadvertently lost during the orgnanization
process.
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