The Richland Alumni SANDBOX 
             Issue #11 ~ December 6, 1998
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Col-Hi / RHS alumni appearing in The SANDBOX today:
Patty Snider Miller, Rod Brewer, Wanda Wittebort Shukay,
Curtis Russell, Joe Largé, Patty Eckert Weyers, Ray
Wells, Tony Tellier, Bob Mattson and David Sherrard.

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"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only
one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would
be no more justified in silencing that one person, then
he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing
mankind."
---John Stewart Mill  1806-1873.
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Subject:  Buckle Up With Pride
From:  Patty (Eckert) Weyers (68)
Reply to: pln5509@montana.com
To:  Arthur Roberts and Jinnie Stephens

Well written also; yet another side very well taken, and
I can see I have to believe you Arthur Roberts on this.
We here now in Montana have experienced 'our decision
making powers' to remain responsible citizens by still
maintaining a rate of travel even though we have been
given a green light to drive at any rate of speed we so
want, (during the day, provided weather is permitting).
Besides our insurance companies and our driving records
concerned, I feel it is beyond our own likes to avoid
the obvious ramifications to ignore or 'feel the
freedom' to not be a responsible driver.  And that goes
for the speed limits we give ourselves; the times we use
our high beams; the times we reach to change the radio
station or light a cigarette (yuk!!) as well as buckle
up or drive with our windows down or wear a helmet...

All very clear to be "risks" when we chose to ignore all
the tons of statistics of causes of accidents and deaths
recorded in our country's history.  (All there for
anyone to take into account for the viewing on those
sites you also furnished).

Road rage and our right to carry arms are some
freedoms/and seat belts as well as an open speed limit
should still be termed a responsibility for our safety.
As Arthur you say, the safety of our passengers and the
families waiting at home and the other drivers on the
road or even the pedestrians that bless our streets; All
are affected by our decision making.  I will quote you,
no man is an island," which clearly says it all.  So I
have to agree with Arthur Roberts here, Jinnie Stephens,
=Chose to leave off your seat belt and open yourself up
and others for a lack of concern or use of the knowledge
given out just for the reading on fatalities and broken
families and higher insurance rates for just such an
attitude.

Freedom still has to be deemed with
boundaries/responsibilities. It should go beyond the
level of being termed in our minds as the law, but the
right thing to do for ourselves and for all. If this is
still perhaps a hard choice to make when feeling the
need to flex some freedom and ignore the law on seat
belt use for the mere feel of freedom across ones lap;
drive straight to the Richland Life Care Center on your
next visit to Richland, and visit a young man of perhaps
21 yrs of age now, but since the age of 18 he has lived
in an iron lung type life support system and will remain
there for the rest of his life, if he had worn his seat
belt his chances for some type of life beyond this would
of been possible the experts claim, after viewing the
accident. (paralyzed from the neck down).  He could be
our own son or brother or husband. Does it take this to
happen inside a family (our family), to make all of us
see the wiseness of wearing our seat belts and not feel
we are being infringed upon for our lack of making that
choice ourselves?  I am not in allegiance for much more
of our freedom of choices being taken from us by our
government and the laws, but this has to fall into the
category of common sense, so please 'Buckle up America'
with Pride.

Patty (Eckert) Weyers (68)
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Subj:  Website To Check Out
From: ray@transcribing.com (Ray Wells) (Class of '54)

Please check out the following web-site:

www.judicialwatch.org

This has to due with a lawsuit that was filed by Larry
Clayman, Chairman of "Judicial Watch," on November 24,
against the Clintons, various White House staff and
others, alleging the transferring of critical missile
guidance technology from the USA to China (Chinagate) in
return for illegal contributions to the Democrat
campaign funds.

If true, this is much worse than the Ken Star stuff.

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From:      Tony Tellier (57)
Reply to: Tony_Tellier@compuserve.com
Subject: To Buckle or Not to Buckle, Is That a Question?

In reference to the following comment seen in an earlier
issue of The Sandbox:  [Quote:  "The only serious
carwreck I was ever in, rolled the car, my two daughters
were actually thrown out, car was totaled - long before
seat belts were installed in cars.  Guess what?  No one
was hurt!  That lesson still sticks, and my sure knowing
that it wasn't anyone's time to go just then." Unquote]

All I can say is that you're one lucky sucker.  Or,
rather, the kids are.  Getting "thrown clear" is an ill-
founded construct. Based on blind chance.  I have read
about sky-divers who have survived a chute failure but I
would never count on that. There are plenty of one-off
lucky breaks but the wise person would never pass up the
chance to be sorta safe.  Like strapping and wearing a
helmet while motorcycle riding. Getting thrown from a
car can result in hitting something else REAL HARD or
getting rolled on by the car ... since both the vehicle
and the passengers tend to be traveling in the
direction, the chance exists that something heavy may be
right behind or on top.

Of course, your idea of rolling the car may be different
than my impression of over 100 miles an hour, pitch-
polling and endo-ing, shedding doors, hoods, glass,
wheels and body panels.

TT In Yuma ('57)

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Subj:   Seatbelt Knucklehead
From:   RMat683939@aol.com  (Bob Mattson) (64)

To start with, I have been in a few crashes, not my
fault, other than driving among those who aren't as
fortunate as I am, in regard to being cool to what's
going on around me.  Check this out.  I have a friend
that walks the red iron.  Now, this guy is walking
around in real nose bleed hights, slapping iron girders
together like a kid with a construction set for
Christmas. OSHA, a state run safety overseer, makes sure
that everything is in compliance with the strictest
codes of Occupational Safety on all job sites in Oregon.
When he is twenty stories up, pulling ropes to align
sixty foot beams, he wears a safety harness, which must
always be attached to whatever.  If he is caught without
his safety gear in top shape, and being used in the
proper manner, all hell breaks loose. He could be kicked
off the job, and the firm could face a healthy fine as
well. But he refuses to wear a seat belt while in his
car and has been cited twice for his non compliance with
the state law.

Well, there's my case.  I escaped serious injury because
I did wear it, he accepts it in the work place for job
regulations. But he doesn't get the connection for his
own protection, and feels as though his tickets are a
badge of defiance.  He too sees his personal freedom
being taken from him.  All I can say to this is that
he's lucky in that he makes good wages.
- Driver Bob
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From:  TME391@aol.com (Patti Snider Miller (65))
To:  NeverTowed@aol.com (David Rivers (65))
Re:     Some Get Caught/History is History/The Cloud

Your writing was excellent on all three subjects, I
couldn't have said it better.  I am proud to be from the
class of 1965!!
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Subj:    Reply to David Rivers
From:     Rodney C. Brewer
ReplyTo: rbrewer@home.com

Welcome to the sand box.  Now I remember why I liked you
so much at Spalding.  -Rod
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From:  Wanda (Wittebort) Shukay (53)
ReplyTo:  Wanda Shukay@aol.com

It's hard for me to address any of the messages received
in this "Sandbox."  I just lost my best friend "Barbara
Foster," age 68 because she was afraid of Doctors or
afraid of knowing she might have something "wrong."  I
have watched her deteriorate over the past 7 years.

She had a silent stroke "seizure" was 911'd and after
two weeks in the hospital was told of artery blockage of
80 percent in the neck and 100 per cent in two heart
arteries.  But, the open heart surgery and neck surgery
would give her another 40 years. She, "scared to death"
had the surgery.  Six surgeons and a wonderful staff of
cardiac nurses on Wednesday - day before Thanksgiving.
Doctor called - was the most difficult heart by-pass
surgery they had ever done -her arteries were the most
diseased they had ever seen.  She lived "on max
medication and help" until her heart stopped 2am, Sat 28
Nov.  That call was one I never wanted to receive.
Barbara Foster was one of the kindest friends and sister
anyone could wish for.  "I miss her so much."

Yes, after all the tests, we could have convinced her to
come home and not do it, but if we had, she could have
had a massive stroke and been an invalid for the last of
her days.  Yes, we could have not called 911 and "maybe"
she would have been here for a little longer.  We don't
know.  We only know she is in a better place. (I hate
that last sentence).  I feel the better place was here
with the ones that loved her.

Driving issue: No, she shouldn't have been driving.  She
could have had a stroke and not only killed herself, but
others. But, she was a very capable driver.

What I'm getting to is, we all must make decisions based
on individual cases.  Barbara chose the surgery hoping
for a better quality of life.  She chose a living will
to ensure "no one" kept her living as a veggie (as she
put it).

Our loved ones cannot always make the right decisions
and we need to be there for them and do all we can to
encourage them to: seek preventative medicine, enjoy
each day of their life, make sure they look to death and
prepare for it.

Love to all of you.  Wanda Shukay

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Subj:   What's happening to the cloud?
From:   cbr22@email.byu.edu (Curtis B Russell) (Class of 98)

I'm from the class of '98, and I was wondering what's
happening to the mushroom cloud?  It is slowly being
phased out of Bomber life without one word to any of the
students. I understand that it's extremely
controversial, especially in this day and age, but still
- it's such a powerful symbol.  What can beat a mushroom
cloud? A lion?  A brave?  I wouldn't even mind so much
that it's being taken away if the students were involved
in the decision. The school is beginning to put the
bomber plane on EVERYTHING. I wouldn't be surprised to
see the tile cloud taken out of the gym in the next
couple years.  I think serious consideration should be
made involving the students and the community as a whole
before the cloud is taken away.  Our mascot is a matter
of national recognition - it's on display in the
Smithsonian, for crying out loud.  I'm proud of our
mascot and would hate to see it changed.

-Curtis Russell

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From JosephDan@aol.com (JoeLarge') (68)

Dear David Rivers,

Concerning: "We can't change what was, we just have to
go on from here:"

Here!  Here!

By-the-way, what tribe?  My lineage includes Whiterock
Ute and Jicarilla Apache.

Joe Largé (68)

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Subj:      Underground Newspaper
From:     David Sherrard '(71)
ReplyTo: Desherrard@aol.com

Interesting to hear Rob Teat's (12/4) memories of
underground newspapers.  That must have been a golden
age of free spirited journalism.  I don't recall what
Grant Ranlett called his underground rag.  I remember
Ray Nelson, some other folks (who's faces I can
visualize but whose names escape me), and I (with
technical assistance from Patti Norton's mother) put out
a couple of issues of "The Goods" in 1970.  I think we
also put out a few in '71.  One of my fondest memories
was interviewing Principal Nash about his reaction to a
(then famous) piece entitled "Student as Nigger."
(Speaking of acceptable language.)  I recall that Mr.
Nash handled that rather challenging question with some
measure of good humor.  The confiscations during
distribution added to the sense of adventure.  I also
remember, Rob, a disputation we had (on some weighty
subject) while standing on the bollards of the parking
lot down at Howard Amon Park. (Or was it just me who was
standing on the pedestal in a (vain) attempt to give my
argument more stature.)  Ah, those were the days.

- David Sherrard '(71)

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DO YOU REMEMBER: Coonskin caps, Hula Hoops and Pop-It
necklaces?  "Cat" "dig" and "hip"?  Bomb shelters in the
backyard?  Sock hops at the gym?  Burma Shave wisdom on
the highways?  Liz, Eddie and Debbie?  Donna, Margaret
and Harriet?  Fabian, Frankie Avalon and Bobby Darin?
Kookie, Clarabelle and Hoss?

Silver, Trigger and Nellybelle?

If so, or even if not, you might really enjoy checking
this website out:

TheFifties http://www.fiftiesweb.com/fifties.htm

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