THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #24 ~ January 17, 1999
"Ah! don't say that you agree with me. When people
agree with me I always feel that I must be wrong."
--Oscar Wilde 1854-1900
RHS/ColHi Alumni Sharing Thoughts and Measuring
The Universe With You Today:
Flossie McCoy Hatfield (GED), Robert Shipp (64),
Marv Carstens ('61), Tony Tellier (57),
John M. Allen (66), Steve Carson (58),
Ron Richards ('63), Carol (Wiley) Wooley (63)
Exchange Your Opinions, Your Ideas, and Your
Responses with Richland Alumni All Around The
Let Us Know What's Eating You!
From: Flossie McCoy Hatfield (GED)
Subj: Why The Cost of Postage Went UP
Dear friends and Bomber Family,
It's time I got in touch with you all to let you know
what's been happening. So I thought I'd better get
this letter out right after the postage went up,
hoping it would get better service than under the old
postage rates. You see, when Hector, our local mail
dude, dropped all the outgoing mail down into the town
outhouse hole it kind of raised a stink hereabouts. I
guess the reason the rate's went up is cause they had
to pay big money to get Clyde Herkel to go down and
get all them postcards and letters and things out of the
hole and clean them up a bit before putting them back
into the delivery system with all that postage way past
We got a new mail person now, since the visiting
Postmaster Inspector General, (PIG), used the town
privy, during the use of which, associated with what he
was doing in the privy, caused one of the talking
Christmas cards down below to start singing Christmas
Carols. Of course the Postmaster Inspector General,
(PIG), jumped up quick and ran out of there like the
Devil was chasing him, thinking the outdoor biffy was
haunted. Further investigation by the PIG revealed the
cause of the haunting. So that's why Hector Hoople,
our beloved mail dude for so many years, is no longer
shucking out the mail hereabouts no more. And that is
why also it costs a penny more to mail this here letter
to you than it would have, had I done it a couple of
I hope you all are doing well. Please write me when
you get work. The well is working fine and the wood is
piled high and we've got plenty of candles on hand. We
got a couple of elk on the rack right now and are salting
them down real good. There is plenty of kerosene for
our lamps, no plumbing to worry about, and boy, do we
feel sorry for all them suckers out there with their
outdoor biffys on the inside, (How fowl can you get?),
and needing electric power lines to keep things
going around their place. I know not what course those
poor souls may take, but as for me and my darling
hubby, Chubb, we are ready already for Y2K. We
don't worry about no global warming, neither, so long
as we got each other to hold on to.
Now, as soon as we can raise the money to buy
another one of them high-priced postage stamps, I will
write again and tell them lying hummers in Washington
how to run the government.
I hope you all get this letter OK. Please let me know if
you don't. Chubb says "howdy" and Hector Hoople,
Pasco Hi (67), is lookin' for a job if ya know of any.
Love to ya all!
From: Robert Shipp (64) firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Slick Willie & Premature Evacuation
I have to agree with David McAdie's(79) observation that
the worst consequence of Bill Clinton leaving office
prematurely (voluntarily or otherwise) would be the head
start it would give to Al "Treehugger" Gore on the 2000
election (talk about your Y2K horrors!). I personally
believe Clinton's actions meet the constitutional
requirements for removal, but I really hope he isn't. If
the Republicans were truly acting in a partisan fashion,
they would do everything in their power to avoid that
Regardless of your political slant, you have to admit that
Mr. Clinton is probably the most brilliant politician in
century. Consider what he has accomplished: He
managed to win the most powerful office in the world,
even though the overwhelming majority of the electorate
believed the allegations about his womanizing, draft
dodging, pot smoking, and participation in
anti-American demonstrations overseas. After vetoing
several budgets passed by Congress, when the
Republicans refused to go along with his "play by my
rules or I'll take my ball and go home" attitude and
continue to spend unbudgeted money, he was able to
put the blame on them for shutting down the government.
After months and years of stonewalling, lying and
stalling, he convinced the public to be angry with Ken
Starr for dragging out the investigation. After admitting
to lying under oath, lying to his family, and lying to the
American people, he still has a large majority of the
public believing he is doing a good job.
I am firmly convinced that Slick Willie could be caught
on video tape cavorting naked with a half dozen
schoolgirls on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, and
still find a way to convince the general public that the
Republicans are to blame.
--Robert Shipp (64)
From: Marv Carstens (61) email@example.com
Subject: Clinton, et. al.
Let's examine (in a bi-partisan display of fairness,
PLEASE) some of the recent B.S. that has
emanated from Washington, D.C.:
1. The violent crime rate is the lowest that it has been
in 30 years, thanks to Clinton's Anti-Crime bill of 1994.
(I don't know about the city you live in, but here in the
Pacific-Northwest, according to local police department
statistics, the violent crime rate is up by anywhere from
8-21% in large population areas, and more than that in
many medium and smaller centers. Maybe it's a
situation peculiar to our part of the U.S. ... anyone else,
from anywhere else, give me some info from their
2. Employment is up, to near record numbers, thanks
to the Democratic party's aggressive actions on behalf of
the nation's workforce. (How much of that is full-time,
with benefits such as medical insurance, retirement,
share options, etc., which was THE definition of 'full-time
employment' from post-Korea through the mid 90-s?
How many people are working two, three or more jobs
to keep their heads afloat and provide for their families?
How are YOU doing?)
3. The economy is moving along at terrific rates, and
the nation is in a new era of prosperity [paraphrased
from several news sources over the past few months].
(The bankruptcy rate is higher than in any other time in
our nation's history, personal debt is staggering, the
stock market is exhibiting knee-jerk reactions to crises
around the world, the nation is playing a losing
cat-and-mouse game with Saddam Hussein, costing
millions of dollars daily.)
4. In the infinite wisdom of the 'collective' mindset, the
new head football coach of the U of W is to be paid
$1M+/year for the next several years while the top
professors in academia get about $50,000 yearly.
People ... what are we being 'fed' by the news media?
Does anyone else notice a disturbing similarity to
German 'news releases' from the early-to-mid 30's to
those of today, right here in the U.S.? Do we, as a
country dedicated to equality, individual freedom and
rights of the common man, have our priorities in
Where are we going?
Marv Carstens ('61)
From: Tony Tellier (57)
For: Peggy Hartnett
Ref: Jim Kolbe
Peggy said" <<>>
How interesting! I am/was an AZ resident and "know"
of Kolbe ... as a political name. Did this "outing" get
any Phx paper press at all? If "No," why not? If so,
what was the reaction ... or better yet, so what?
From: John M. Allen (66) firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Conversing with Alan Porter (67)
Alan, you were absolutely, 100% on target with your
correction of my statement in Issue #17 of the
SANDBOX - seriously! I'm just disappointed that it
took this long for some Democrat (I won't call you
a "lib" because you sound more intelligent than that)
to fall into my little trap. The point was to get a
Clinton apologist, liberal, or just plain Democrat to
jump on that bait and thereby admit that impeachment
and conviction of Bubba would NOT, in fact, be the
"coup d'état," the "overturning of two elections," or the
"right wing putsch" that so many Clinton defenders have
been whining about for weeks. It would simply be the
cleaning up of a badly soiled office and replacement
with an adequate temp from the same political party
who would hopefully set a less offensive example for
the nation to follow.
As for der Schlickmeister, I'm sorry for any pain you
are experiencing while watching your ox being gored,
but Bubba deserves everything he is currently getting.
Unfortunately, it looks as though he won't get
everything he deserves. That IS the unspoken prayer
of all politicians; not to be the recipient of what they
truly deserve. You know, of course, that with the
demographics in the jurisdiction where Bubba would be
indicted and tried after leaving office, he stands less
chance than Marion Barry of ever being convicted of a
crime. So much for justice in America.
Don't fall off your chair, but I agree completely with the
elimination of Corporate Welfare. Corporations
NEVER pay taxes anyway. They just collect them.
---John Allen (66)
From: Steve Carson (58) email@example.com
Mike Franco: Well said, issues must be the focus
and the constant heated hyperbole must be screened
out. I consider myself a conservative and though I tend
to vote Republican hesitate to wear that label. Rather
than assuming I know what others think, I just can't
understand how issues which appear to be black and
white, can be so effectively spun.
From: Ron Richards ('63) G1A1S1@aol.com
Subject: THINGS ARE WARMING UP
For: Ken Heminger:
You might be short changing yourself with your two
cents worth. Your private detective story might have
been worth twice that much to some people. It might
have even sent shivers up the spines of Henry Hyde,
Robert Barr, and John Livingston, and joy to the heart
of Larry Flynt.
To Steve Carson:
There is a consensus among scientists that global
warming resulting from human impacts is very probably
occurring. Those who want you to blindly ignore that
probability are those who also want you to think
that there is no concessus on the issue.
There is also a reason why there is expert scientific
opinion on both sides of the issue. The coal industry
has deep pockets. Just as the Bonneville Power
Administration can hire "experts" to testify that dam
reservoirs help salmon by making it easier for the
salmon to swim upstream (imagine how those millions
of salmon that used to spawn in the Columbia River
must have so miserably struggled to swim upstream
far beyond where Grand Coulee Dam now is for those
thousands of years before man built the dams), the
coal industry can hire "experts" who attempt to
challenge the overwhelming scientific evidence
supporting the consensus.
A minus six temperature in Chicago with twenty-six
inches of snow on the ground should not give you too
much confidence that global warming is not occurring.
First, as the consensus so frequently points out,
temperatures over one year, let alone one day, mean
very little on this issue. It is the trend that matters,
considered in the light of what the earth's temperature
would have been with naturally occurring cycles. The
bottom line is that the earth's temperatures are warming
at an unprecedented rate during a period where a
cooling trend should naturally be occurring. Second, if
you think this winter has been cold, check out energy
prices and gas storage inventories. It's really no secret
that this winter has been unusually warm.
Third, twenty-six inches of snow on the ground should
not give you too much confidence that global warming is
not occurring. High relative humidities, with resultant
high rates of precipitation, are an effect of global
Finally, if you're still here and if you are genuinely
interested in global warming, I suggest that you read
some of the speeches of John Browne, the CEO of BP
Amoco. Although Mr. Browne operates in an industry
where you risk all influence by suggesting even the
most remote connection between energy consumption
and global warming, Mr. Browne has very responsibly
taken the position that now is the time for precautionary
action because the evidence supporting global warming
is mounting. He also recognizes an opportunity for profit
resulting from precautionary actions due to increased
efficiencies and better public relations. See
www.bpamoco.com / world issues / climate change/
Have a warm and pleasant day.
[Widely reported in the news: 1998, (worldwide
aggregate), was the hottest year on record. -ed.]
From: Carol (Wiley) Wooley (63) Rowein@aol.com
Subj: Let's Talk About Something Else.
The Presidential bashing is getting SOOOOOO boring!
He screwed up, (which of course none of us has ever
done), he has been found out by the world, his life and
I believe, marriage is pretty screwed up. Can we
please get out of Bill's life and go on with ours??!!!
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but
could we possibly have opinions on something else?
Is it just possible that there are some other serious
issues that could be of interest? Suggestions: the
Veteran's Administration, medical costs in our country,
AIDS Research, Censorship, Parental Rights regarding
minors in Washington State.
Be brave fellow alumni, don't just go along with the
crowd....discuss something the news media doesn't
want to talk about!
P.S. The donkey was in the stable when Christ was
born, where was the elephant??
Carol (Wiley) Wooley
What would you like to talk about or hear discussed?
What do you think about playing baseball with Cuba?
Seen any movies worth seeing? Read any books worth
reading? Visited any Web Sites worth visiting? What
do you think the ever-nearer Y2K is going to bring?
Is Global Warming just a cycular thing? How about
some of the topics suggested by Carol (Wiley) Wooley,
such as the the Veteran's Administration, medical
costs in our country, AIDS Research, Censorship, or
Parental Rights regarding minors in Washington State?
Tell us how you feel about things that are important to
you, exciting, or just plain fun to talk about. We are
listening! Thanks, everyone, for your participation,
both as readers and writers in Your Sandbox forum!
See you again, soon!
--Al Parker - Sandbox Coordinator