THE SANDBOX ~ Issue #28 ~ February 6, 1999 

    "I never resist temptation, because I have found 
   that things that are bad for me do not tempt me." 

           George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950 
                --The Apple Cart -- act II 

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News of Interest This Week: 

Middle East:  King Hussein On Life Support. 

Hanford East:  High Winds Blow Irradiated Tumble 
Weeds Through 200 East area.  Hanford workers 
warned, "don't touch." 

Officials are not overly concerned, however. 
According to lead contractor Fluor Daniel Hanford, Inc., 
"A person would have to ingest several contaminated 
tumbleweeds to be subject to harm." 

In any case, this news does inspire a great idea for 
a movie with Meg Ryan, Mel Gibson and a cast of 
thousands of Richland Bombers, entitled: 
      "Please Don't Eat The Tumbleweeds." 
The musical background will be supplied by the 
digitally perfected Sons of The Pioneers. 

"See  them tumbling along, 
Deep in my heart is their song, 
Although their rads are not strong, 
I'm told to eat them is wrong... 

And deep in my heart I do know 
Though deep in the night I do glow 
I'll just keep rolling along... 
With the tumbling, tumbling tumble weeds! 

The plot will be sort of a combination of "Please 
Don't Eat the Daisies" and "Volcano" with Richland 
and the Hanford Reservation as the locale.  Will Mel 
Gibson be able to save Meg Ryan from her fast track 
fixation for a fast flux finish?  That is the question! 

Want to hear some of the background music for this 
great movie in which you could play a role?  Go to: 
http://www.hondoshonkytonk.com/sounds/chuck/ 
and click on:  tumblewe.mid    -ap 
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Your RHS/ColHi Alumni Speakers of The Day are: 
Ray Wells (54), Vince Bartram (62), Tony Tellier (57) 
Lee Johnson (54), Arthur Roberts  (48), 
Darwin Perkins (69), Jenny (Smart) Page (87), 
Annette Pierce (62), John M. Allen (66) 
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Share Your Opinions, Your Ideas, and Your 
Responses with Richland Alumni All Around The 
World!   MailTo:THE_SANDBOX@hotmail.com 
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From:   ray@transcribing.com (Ray Wells) (54) 
To:           The_Sandbox@hotmail.com 
Subj:    Answering questions, allegations and comments from: 
            William.Porter2@PSS.Boeing.com 
            Mari Eckert Leahyme (65) Me12147@aol.com 
            Debbie Nelson Burnet (77) EDJMSB@aol.com 

1.  Concerning William Porter's comment about 400 
prosecutors who have said they wouldn't even bring 
charges against a 'normal' person for what Clinton did: 
Since you did not say 'allegedly did' I have to assume 
that you believe Clinton did it, but since you didn't 
specifically mention what 'it' referred to, I am unable to 
access the full import of your statement.  This is the 
first time I have heard this '400 prosecutors' statistic, 
and I would appreciate your sharing the source with the 
Sandbox, including the circumstances and questions 
involved, since this appears to be a survey a.k.a. a poll. 

Speaking of polls, I heard an example on the radio on 
how polls are conducted: 

20 people were asked if they knew who Mike Tyson 
was.  All 20 answered yes.  Then they were asked if 
they knew that Mike Tyson bit off a chunk of an 
opponent's ear.  18 said yes, and 2 said no.  Then they 
were asked if they knew that Mike Tyson served time 
in prison for assaulting his girlfriend. 19 said yes, 1 
said no.  Then they were asked if they respected Mike 
Tyson as a person.  All 20 said no.  Lastly they were 
asked if they believed Mike Tyson was a good boxer. 
16 (80%) said yes, 2 said no, and 2 had no opinion. 
Announced results of the poll:  Tyson has an 80% 
approval rating. 

2.  Concerning Mari Eckert Leahyme's 'Like a Soap 
Opera' comments.  I doubt that Thomas Jefferson would 
have shed any tears for President Bill Clinton.  Jefferson, 
who was the actual author of the U.S. Constitution, was 
well known for his mistrust of government, and elected 
officials in general, and that is why we find 
impeachment covered in the Constitution.  It would be 
interesting to hear from someone who can quote 
comments from scholars who are authorities on 
Thomas Jefferson, who have expressed what they 
think Thomas Jefferson would have said about this 
Clinton mess.  There is a world of information on the 
Internet about Thomas Jefferson, and if anyone has 
the time to research it, and share it with the rest of 
us, I'm sure it would make worthwhile reading. 

Mari said, "What ever became of the concept of 
innocent until PROVEN guilty? Whatever became of 
fairness and listening to both sides before blaming or 
accusing?"  Blaming and accusing are rights that are 
guaranteed under the first amendment (it's called 
freedom of speech, and it only exists in a democracy). 
Trials are conducted to prove innocence or guilt.  You 
can't get any more fair than that.  Bill Clinton is being 
tried according to his Constitutional right.  The 
Republicans want a trial.  It is the Democrats and 
liberals who are against the trial and against hearing 
witnesses.  Witnesses, by the way, can also be used 
to testify on behalf of the president (unless of course, 
these kinds of witnesses don't exist). 

3. Concerning Debbie Nelson Burnet's 'Well said' 
comment.  It's nice to hear that at least one other 
person agrees with me.  Like you, I also think if 
Clinton were an honorable man he would have 
resigned from office a long time ago.  Any decent 
husband and father would have resigned rather than 
subjecting his wife and daughter to such humiliation, 
and he would have resigned rather than polarize his 
country from the spin-off of his immorality. 

Ray Wells (54) 
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From: Vince Bartram (62) vlewisb@msn.com 
To: The_Sandbox@hotmail.com 
Subject: Questions re Y2K (Thanks to Bob Rector) 

So Bob, 

Help me out here. 

Should I party like it's 1985, or party like it's 2015? 
Or how about we all agree to just do 1999 over again? 
Actually, if I could get my body to agree, I wouldn't 
mind doing the last 30 years over again. I wonder if I 
would make some of the same dumb mistakes.  Oh 
well. 

Thanks for the discussion 

— Vince Bartram 
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From: RIS/SW Tony Tellier (57) 
Mail: Tony_Tellier@compuserve.com 
To:    The_Sandbox@hotmail.com 
Subject: Can a Computer Virus Spay Your Dog? 

Re: "A little bit of critical thinking." 

[Re virus urban legend virus alerts] ... I never pay any 
attention to them anyway but your tips might be 
enlightening for those who shotgun virus warnings. 

I liked the warning about this virus that will spay your 
dog, invalidate your Visa card, cause global warming or 
cooling depending ... 

Tony Yuma 
RHS '57 (Fifty-SEVEN!  Has it been THAT long?) 
This is not a chain letter 
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From: Lee Johnson (54) BeegByte@aol.com 
To: The_Sandbox@hotmail.com 
Subj: Another Big Columbia Flood Coming? 
Or:    Columbia Point Construction At Risk? 
Or:    Time to Widen The Old Horn Rapids Road? 

Just heard some disturbing news.  Apparently the snow 
pack is growing at an alarming rate and the possibility 
is there for a major flood on the Columbia and its tributaries. 

Is there anyone out there who can remember the 
"GREAT FLOOD OF 48"?  I remember GW Way 
being roped off and only the big Eukes and 
Turn-a-pulls running wide open up and down the street 
24 hours a day.  At night, there was a two foot flame 
coming out of the exhaust pipe.  It amazes me there 
are developers who want to tear down the dike around 
Richland.  And there is a lot of construction down on 
what they now call Columbia Point.  In 1948 that was 
under 20 feet of water.  As I recall the only way out of 
Richland during that flood was to drive to Benton City 
using the old Horn Rapids Road.  Does anyone else 
recall that flood? 

--   Lee Johnson 
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>From Arthur Roberts  (48) 
FluffDry@hotmail.com 
Subj: Please Interpret My Dream 

I would welcome any and all to try to interpret this 
 weird dream I had recently.  I was in the kitchen.  The 
 refrigerator door was open.  My wife's cat, (I am no 
 longer married in real life), jumped into the refrigerator 
 at crisper level, then came flying out of the refrigerator 
 just below freezer level and landed in my arms.  My 
 wife kept telling me to keep the cat out of the 
 refrigerator.  Her cat kept jumping in near the bottom 
 and popping out near the top.  I couldn't catch it or 
 make it stop.  I could tell my wife was getting mad at 
 me for letting this continue, but there was nothing I 
 could do to make the cat stop. What do you think this 
 means? 

— Arthur Roberts 
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From: Darwin Perkins (69)  dperkins@3-cities.com 
To:  THE_SANDBOX@hotmail.com 
Subject: Millennium Bug and other Y2K thoughts 

In response to Dick Epler (52) in the Sandbox #27. 
Yes, I do still browse these occasionally 

Dick's synopsis of the intricacies of the Y2K problem 
 was very well done.  I won't attempt to improve on it. 
 I'm not involved with Lockheed Martin (LMSI) 
 anymore, so I can't say exactly what they are doing on 
 the Hanford site.  But, after spending the better part of 
 the last 5 years working in three separate companies 
 on various aspects of the Y2K problem, it's obvious to 
 me that a problem does exist.  However, it's just as 
 obvious that it's not a life-threatening, world ending, 
 kind of problem.  So you can class me in the non-Y2K 
 believer group. 

There are a number of Y2K sites on the Web.  If you're 
 interested, just search for the word "Y2K".  It can 
 provide you several months of reading material. 

I've been asked several times to present information on 
 Y2K and its potential impact on life as we know it. 
 Here are some observations: 

Businesses in the world are in business to survive and 
 to make a profit.  They will do as much as necessary to 
 "fix" the Y2K bug and no more. There will be some 
 problems, but, for the most part, life as we 
 know it will continue. 

Remember, regardless of the rumor mongers, only a 
 small part of your life hinges on a computer doing its 
 job, you'll still get a paycheck the first week in 
 January.  There will still be gas at the pumps and they'll 
 still sell coffee and rolls inside. 

Banks and other financial institutions have already run 
 through Y2K several times AND they will fully back 
 up current information on December 31, this year.  For 
 them, the worst case scenario does not involve their 
 computers, but their customers: A run on the bank 
 would devastate the. There is not enough printed 
 money in the country to allow people to pull their 
 savings from the bank over that last week in 
 December.  A public panic over not being able to 
 physically hold money is a real concern. 

In major cities, whenever there is a abnormal 
 occurrence, fire, earthquake, power failure, etc., a sub 
 group of the population makes the best of the situation 

 by rioting and looting.  I expect that will happen 
 regardless of the real effect of Y2K. Merely the 
 expectation will be sufficient reason for this group. 

The potential for power and utility outages does exist. 
 The last time a major power provider tripped off line in 
 the Western Region Grid, some parts of Idaho and 
 Utah were without power for 3 days.  Will this happen 
 as a result of Y2K?  No one knows.  However, this fits 
 in the same class of 'disasters' as a major snow storm. 
 The power people will reset the systems, bypass those 
 that are causing problems and start up the generators 
 again. 

Travel: I'm planning to go somewhere fun and/or warm 
 for the holidays.  Will there be a problem getting back? 
 Probably not, and if there is a delay, it will probably 
 involve the weather, not Y2K.  Radios still work, 
 pilots still pilot, there will be gas at the airports, radar 
 still works.  Could there be a problem? Sure. Will it 
 stop all flights for the next century? Nope. 

Food: If you knew that there would be a major winter 
 storm in 3 weeks and that the power and all 
 transportation in and out of your town would 
 be shut down for 3-5 days, what would you do?  For 
 Y2K, do the same thing. 

Summary: There is a problem with computer systems 
 and the year 2000.  With a highly technical lifestyle we 
 enjoy, there may be some inconveniences.  However, 
 this too will pass. Take what you hear with a grain of 
 salt. Remember, most people who know a bunch about 
 Y2K are making their living by fixing the problem. 
 The worse they make it sound, the more work they 
 have... 

--Darwin Perkins (69) 
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From: Jenny (Smart) Page (87) 
MailTo:     jpage@3-cities.com 
To: THE_SANDBOX@hotmail.com 
Subject:    The Nation's Business Is Being Done 

In response to Kathy Rathvon and how the congress 
 needs to "get on with the business of running our 
 country."   Well, Kathy, what they are doing IS the 
 business of running the country.  Although what is 
 currently occurring is not an activity that happens with 
 each session, it is a part of the "job description" of 
 being a Representative or Senator. Granted, it's not a 
 fun part of the job, but occasionally it is a necessary 
 part.  Let them do this part of their job. 

And in response to Peggy Roesch, I would gladly take 
 someone who makes a (common) spelling error like 
 Dan Quayle, over someone who is a disgrace to such a 
 dignified office, like William J. Clinton. What is 
 saddest about this whole "affair" with Clinton is that 
 we, the American people, are no longer shocked with 
 each additional "bimbo eruption." My point: A few 
 Weeks back when the Danny Williams-thing occurred; 
 I did not speak to one person (even my Clinton 
 supporter friends) who doubted that it could be true. 
 Everyone just accepted it as "Yep, ol' Billy knocked up 
 some bimbo back in Arkansas." No one said "No 
 Way!!  He wouldn't have done that!" (or something 
 along those lines....get my point?).   William J. Clinton 
 is an embarrassment to all of  America.   He is a liar 
 (even his staunchest supporters admit that), and God 
 knows what else.  The man should hang his head in 
 shame and leave.... Leave the office he holds....Leave 
 Washington D.C....... Leave America... He's done 
 enough damage already. 

— Jenny (Smart) Page (87) 
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From: Annette Pierce (62) almond@uswest.net 
To: The_Sandbox@hotmail.com 
Subject: Question: 

Hi, 
I am Annette Monson Pierce. (Would be class of 62 but 
 moved to Benton City and graduated in 62 there.)  I 
 have a question and would like some feedback from 
 Bombers growing up in Richland during the years of 
 W 42-55.  I would like to know if you have noticed an 
 increase in the amount of breast cancer in your area. 
 We don't have much of a history of breast cancer in my 
 family but now the three oldest girls in our family 
 including myself have developed it..  My two younger 
 sisters are on six months rechecks because of 
 suspicious spots and lumps.  Marion my older sister 
 said two of her friends also developed breast cancer. 
 All of us developed it before the age of fifty five.  I 
 would be interesting in hearing some responses. 
 Thanks. 

Annette Monson Pierce (62) 
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From: John M. Allen (66) 
Reply-To: miles2go@cheerful.com 
To: THE_SANDBOX@hotmail.com> 
Subject: Speaking for Myself 

In responding to that which Mike Franco claims he 
 learned from me during Husky Football games, I 
 would like to preface my remarks with the admonition 
 that true communication, and specifically the 
 teaching/learning process, are usually tricky things. 
 For purposes of my remarks here and in the future, I 
 will define true communication as having taken place 
 when one person precisely understands information or 
 ideas in the same manner that the conveyor of the 
 information or ideas WISHES for the other person to 
 understand.  This process can be hampered by 
 inadequacies on the part of either the communicator or 
 the "communicatee" or both.  It can also be hampered 
 by ambient circumstances (like the roar of a crowd, for 
 instance). 

Having said that, and having reviewed Issue #24 to be 
 sure MarvCarstens wasn't being misquoted or 
 misinterpreted, I have to say that, in general, it appears 
 Mike Franco was a pretty good student (at least from 
 the standpoint of having UNDERSTOOD certain very 
 basic Conservative principles). 

While I understand the frustrations of people at the 
 SEEMING value placed upon certain jobs in society, I 
 still believe (about 85% of the time) in the MARKET 
 DYNAMIC of the capitalist system.   For instance, I 
 am sure that the UW does not pay its attorneys as little 
 as it does its highest paid professor, and ONLY to the 
 extent that the head football coach does a completely 
 different job than a professor, do I make this 
 comparison with the attorney.   One must also consider 
 the relative good done by the athletic program as a 
 whole, and how much the football program contributes 
 not only to that whole program, but to the academic 
 side of University life as well.  I doubt that any single 
 fund raising method contributes to the University, 
 anywhere near the amount of raw cash that the football 
 program does.   Even in situations where the overall 
 good is far more suspect than college football 
 (specifically professional sports in general, and the 
 NBA in particular) I still believe in the market system. 
 Even if the public wishes to continue demonstrating its 
 overall ignorance by paying outrageous sums to 
 horribly spoiled athletes and team owners so that they 
 may prey upon that same public and its daughters in 
 the pursuit of their own private Sodom and Gomorra, I 
 still maintain it is NOT up to the government to 
 legislate against the public's ignorant behavior.  While 
 contrary to popular opinion, we can and DO legislate 
 morality, we cannot AFFORD to legislate against 
 ignorance; at least not in adult society.  There is simply 
 FAR too much of it. 

As for Mr. Carstens' comments about the state of 
 employment in this country, I agree with the point he 
 SEEMED to be making that neither the Democratic 
 Party nor (presumably) the Clinton Administration is 
 responsible for current economic conditions, whatever 
 one perceives those conditions to be.   I would say the 
 same about any Administration regardless of party. 
 This stems once again from the basic Conservative 
 belief in capitalism and the market system; specifically, 
 that in general, market dynamics are primarily 
 responsible for the state of any nation's economy.   A 
 GOOD administration of government is rather like a 
 good referee in a football game.   It applies the rules in 
 as inconspicuous a fashion as possible and does not 
 attempt to make lots of new rules or become the focus 
 of the game.   But as for Mr. Carstens apparent 
 complaints about what he perceives to be inadequate 
 benefits, I can only say that no Administration, 
 regardless of political party, should insert itself into 
 this process.   A good argument can be made that in 
 many cases, it has been precisely the inappropriate 
 involvement of the government that has screwed things 
 up.   One example, without doubt, is the Social 
 Security System and its so-called Trust Fund which 
 DOES NOT EXIST due to the federal government's 
 meddling and lack of self control when it comes to 
 spending.   That's what happens when one party 
 is left in control of the House for 40 continuous years. 
 When it comes to business, there are few bodies less 
 qualified to control it effectively than the US Congress, 
 since most of the Congressmen, Congresswomen, and 
 Senators have so abysmally little experience in 
 business.  They all have lots of IDEAS but those ideas 
 almost always involve spending your money and mine, 
 all the while thinking it is really theirs. 

As for my little traps, I have tried only the one so far, 
 but I will not be advertizing any future ones in 
 advance.   I had really expected that it would be one of 
 the Francos or maybe Ron Richards who would take 
 the first bite at the bait, and the fact that they didn't, 
 MAY be an indication of how completely libs have 
 come to believe their own swill about this 
 impeachment being equal to an attempted coup d'état. 

---John Allen ('66) 
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From:   Howie Mandel's TV Show as aired 1/28/99 
Subj:    Evolution 

Howie's son: Dad, if man descended from apes, why 
are there still apes? 

Howie: Because the ones that are still apes are the 
slow learners. 

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That's all for today's Sandbox, folks.  Say what you 
are itching to say today and send it right away to: 
The_Sandbox@hotmail.com 

Not sure what you want to talk about?  Well, then, 
here are some ideas for you: What do you think 
about: 

1.  Will we... Should we... soon be sending U.S. 
troops to Kosovo to help restore peace there? 

2.  Is Russia still a threat to the U.S., to world 
peace? 

3.  What do you think should really be done with the 
so-called national budget "surplus?" 

4.  Why would you like to have yourself cloned? 

5.  Why would you not like to have yourself cloned? 

6.  What is your "favorite" pet peeve? 

See you next time! 
                    -- Al Parker 
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