The SANDBOX 
                Issue 72 - July 15 - 2000
        Ideas - Opinion - Personal Experience
                 What's Happening Now

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        "A parliament can do any thing but make a
 man a woman, and a woman a man."

                  2nd Earl of Pembroke
                         1534  - 1601

Look Who's Talking Today!

         "...we are still blessed(?) with certain
 freedoms, as long as we adhere to their related 
 responsibilities.  If the opposite were true, none of
 us would be engaging in the forum we are now
 using."

       - Bob Carlson (aka "Mike Clowes") '54

      "Yes, Virginia, there IS an alternative to 
 politics  as usual."

                    - Gene Trosper '85

        "...it will not be boring."

                     - Steve Carson '58

     "I thought you might be interested in this letter I
 received from Bill Witherup (53).  "LEARNING
 TO GLOW"  is an interesting anthology on some
 of the  effects of the Nuclear age."  

              - Marlene (Maness) Mulch '57

      "The four lower Snake River Dams proposed
 to be  taken out contribute nothing to flood
 control."

                     - Ron Richards ('63)

     "I still think Ringo  Starr and Yasser Arafat are
 the same person.  Think about it.  Have you ever
 seen them together at the same place?"

          - Bob Carlson (aka "Mike Clowes") '54


       "...the Sandbox is certainly  thought provoking
 and I am impressed by the entries as being well
 thought out and articulate."

                     - Steve Carson (58)

                                ~~~~~~

Here's More of What We're Talking About Today:

Subj:   Demopublicans and Republicrats
From:  Gene Trosper (85)
Reply-to: gtrosper@ez2.net

With all due respect to those who still support the
 two old parties, it's slightly amusing to see the
 back and forth charges and allegations...as if
 any real philosophical difference remains between
 the two.

I have a favorite saying: "The Democrats are racing
 100 mph toward socialism while the Republicans
 just cruise a 'sensible' 50 mph toward it". I don't
 remember who said it, but it's right on.

Democrats, the traditional civil liberties party, are
 now calling for censorship and more police
 powers.

Republicans, the traditional economic  
 conservatives, now are addicted to pork-barrel
 spending, corporate welfare and propping up the
 currencies of nations like Mexico.

The distinguishing hallmarks of both parties are
 slowly and fuzzily disappearing.

I just got back home from the Libertarian Party
 National Convention in Anaheim and was
 completely energized. Yes, Virginia, there IS an
 alternative to politics as usual.

http://www.lp.org

I'm not saying you should vote Libertarian (though
 it would be nice), but pointing out that as the
 current race toward the center has destroyed
 choice between the two. The rise of third parties
 like the Greens and Libertarians (forget the Reform
 Party...they are self-destructing on their own
 terms) are a reaction to this destruction. People
 want a clear and distinct choice.

This election ought to be interesting.

                   - Gene Trosper (85)

                             ~~~~~

Subj:    It Will Not Be Boring
From:   Steve Carson '58
SteveNitro#@aol.com

For Mark Franco - Well your list of what it would
 take to vote for someone was a mixed bag.  I
 would respectfully disagree with you on gun
 control and abortion and wonder what you mean
 by a "Fair foreign policy"?  Perhaps we should
 have a poll to tell us.  When John McCain
 announced I was pretty interested and my wife
 became an instant advocate.  This was short lived, 
 the more we heard him speak and lie to  us.  Well,
 the political season is about to get started in
 earnest and it will not be boring.  Be Well.

                       - Steve Carson '58

                                    ~

Subj: Are They Trying To Tell Us Something?
From:   Bob Carlson (aka "Mike Clowes") '54
bobs@proaxis.com
 
A New Conspiracy Theory for your consideration.

 Now that "The Fire" is out, and thankfully without
 too much loss of life, we have to be watchful for
 events around Oak Ridge.

Could it be, that by these fires D.O.E. is trying to
 tell us something. We might have to think
 seriously along these lines if a major conflagration
 should break out near Oak  Ridge in the next few
 weeks.

A fellow alum suggested to me, in jest, that
 perhaps the "gummint" was trying to destroy the
 secret records maintained in the 200-Area.

 You never know.  Besides, I still think Ringo 
 Starr and Yasser Arafat are the same person. 
 Think about it.  Have you ever seen them together
 at the same place?

 Spudnuts rule

        - Bob Carlson (aka "Mike Clowes") '54

                                   ~

Subj: "Learning To Glow" 
[Marlene (Maness) Mulch (57) 
Shares E-Mail From Bill Witherup (53) 
Reply-to: mulch@lankaster.com

Marlene Mulch Writes:

I thought you might be interested in this letter I
 received from Bill Witherup (53).  "Learning To
 Glow"  is an interesting anthology on some of the
 effects of the Nuclear age. Maybe you will want to
 do something with this subject in The Sandbox.

               - Marlene (Maness) Mulch '53

                                    ~

>From a review in Amazon.com:

 "This anthology is intended to heighten
 awareness of the continued threat [of nuclear age
 hazzards] and to encourage ways of better
 managing U.S. policy."

Bill Witherup's Letter to Marlene Mulch:

My sister Sandra Haskins (class of 59?) forwarded
 the Alumni Sandstorm where you mention the
 anthology I helped edit, LEARNING TO
 GLOW: A NUCLEAR READER, edited by John
 Bradley. U of Arizona Press, 2000.  Would like to 
 encourage more Richlanders to buy this book and
 read it.  There have not been too many book
 reviews to date, so I am just curious as to where
 you  saw it, a bookstore, an advertisement. etc.  I
 would be happy to give a talk and reading in
 Richland if I knew whom to contact, since I live in 
 Seattle not so very far away.  Have already given
 two readings from it in Seattle bookstores, and am
 giving a talk to Secular Humanists of Washington
 on July 21st, and showing a film I helped make,
 LIVING IN THE NUCLEAR AGE, Nagasaki
 Broadcasting Company 1995. ...Also have 
 forthcoming, September of 2000, my new and
 selected poems, Down Wind, Down River, West
 End Press. Since I have no idea of how to use chat 
 rooms, nor do I really have the time or inclination,
 you may forward this email to anyone else you
 choose....Thanks for the mention.  Cordially, 
 Bill Witherup (53)

                                   ~

Subj:   Some Scary Prospects
From:   Bob Carlson (aka "Mike Clowes") '54 
bobs@proaxis.com

Regardless of political leanings, this nation is
faced with the scary thought of either Bore or Gush
as the president. George Corley Wallace once said
during the Johnson / Goldwater campaign: "There's not
a dime's worth of difference between them." Needless
to say, ole' George was also in the running.

Now, I don't resent the fact that the incumbent and
 his successor (whoever that may be) is younger
 than I am.  What I resent is that they collectively
 seem to possess the intellectual capacity of a dead
 armadillo (no offense to any armadillos who might
 read this).

Apparently the only thing the two "front runners"
 are good for is fodder the monologs of the talk
 show boys.  And forgive me, if you will, I wasn't 
 aware that Clinton had his own news network.  I
 thought CNN was more of the "OJ" network, or
 was that Fox News?

We wonder and worry about the candidates, what
 they stand for(?) and why we even bother to vote. 
 Some one once wrote that the United States has
 the best government money could buy.  That
 person is probably right; we're just fortunate that it
 didn't go to the lowest bidder like other
 government contracts.

Yet, we are still blessed(?) with certain freedoms,
 as long as we adhere to their related 
 responsibilities.  If the opposite were true, none of
 us would be engaging in the forum we are now
 using.

But the more I think on it, Clinton-bashing is
 nothing more than Bush-bashing; Regan-bashing;
 Carter-bashing; Ford-bashing; well, you get the
 idea.  Seems no matter who occupies the Oval
 Office, they can't do it right.  People more than
 likely said the same things about George and Tom 
 and John (and especially his kid).  I think we have
 resolved ourselves to the idea that we don't care
 whose ox gets gored, just as long as someone's 
 does.

So far, I think the legacy of this nation is that we
 are a fractious bunch, and we'll take on  anyone
 who says we are.

Remember the implicit slogan of "King" Richard
 the First Daley, late mayor of Chicago:  "Come
 early and vote often for the candidate of  my
 choice."  Or as the late Walt Kelly said through
 his alter-ego "Pogo:"  "We have met the enemy
 and they is us."

         Bob Carlson (aka "Mike Clowes") '54 

                                   ~

Subj:   Fears misplaced.
From:   Ron Richards ('63)
G1A1S1@aol.com

To Bob Carlson (aka Mike Clowes):

The four lower Snake River Dams proposed to be
 taken out contribute nothing to flood control. 
 Your fears regarding their demise are misplaced.

                    - Ron Richards ('63)

                                  ~

Subj:   Re: The SANDBOX Issue #70
From:   Steve Carson (58)
SteveNitro@aol.com

Thanks for your work Al, the Sandbox is certainly
 thought provoking and I am impressed by the
 entries as being well thought out and articulate. 
 Keep up the good work.  

                    - Steve Carson (58)

                                 ~

Thanks, Steve.  Keep 'em coming folks!

                     - Al Parker (53)

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