THE SANDBOX ~ Petty Gripes, and Cat Fights Issue #126 ~ 07/17/01 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dick McCoy (45/46), Anita Hughes (52), Burt Pierard (59), Bob Mattson (64), Barbara Franco (69), Geoff Rothwell (71) ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>From: Dick McCoy (45/46) Re: The Bomb David Douglas (62) had it just right in the 7/15/01 edition of THE SANDBOX. Those of us in the Class of '45 knew all too well what graduation would bring. We would certainly be the fodder in the landing on the beaches of Japan, Operation Olympus (or Olympic). In the summer of '45 I contacted Army recruiters with the idea of signing up after my "last summer," to put it dramatically. Then the Bomb was dropped. I decided immediately to quit the enlistment which was not final, and return to school in the fall to make up a deficiency for graduation. I was only 17 and would wait for the draft, which came after my birthday in December. Thus, I have some selfish incentive to decry the annual bashing of the U.S. each August. The bombs were horrible, but no more so than the firestorms in Tokyo and Hamburg started by our incendiary devices. And certainly no more so than the terrible abuses of the Japanese wherever they conquered. I had the opportunity of seeing the results of the Death March from Bataan in two surviving patients that I cared for as a medic after the war. Weighing about 80 pounds each, they were not a pretty sight. The Bomb was exploded, some 400,000 died, and many others were casualties. A large and sad number, but not compared with some 50 million dead during the long war. -Dick McCoy (45/46) ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>From: Anita Hughes Hogan (52) Re: cancer deaths in tri-cities To: Betty Avant (69) I think most of us have seen or known many people in the tri-cities that have died from cancer, whether they worked in the Hanford Area or not. I worked at Safeway in Richland for many years. Two of our very young people passed away of the dreaded disease. One was our wonderful assistant manager, Gary Gundberg (sp). He was only 32. Jim Cardone worked with us for years and passed away at age 35. I have had many friends that were gone by age 52 or so. There have been reported radiation leaks back in the 40s and perhaps early 50s. Also has caused a lot of thyroid problems (my wonderful mother being one of them). >From what was reported on television, I understand that it was also passed through cow's milk. I think for those of us that drank raw milk from local friends, that could have been a problem. I am just sounding off - there was a tremendous amount of media coverage over this some years back.. Thanks for listening. -Anita Hughes Hogan (52) ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>From: Burt Pierard (59) The criticism of the killing of "noncombatants" (read civilians here) at Hiroshima and Nagasaki would make more sense if it was directed at the "blanket bombing" of Germany where the Allies openly admitted they were trying to break the will of the German people to resist. It would also make more sense if it was directed at the indiscriminate firebombing of Tokyo (ironically, disabling the Japanese A-bomb Development Lab) and approximately fifty other Japanese cities where many more people were killed than by the two A-bomb attacks. Apparently these were perfectly OK because they were accomplished with conventional bombs, not nuclear. Where is the outcry of criticism and the floating of prayer candles in response to those events? The question that arises concerning the "victims" of the A-bomb attacks is whether they were really noncombatants? Recently declassified documents (since 1995) and searches of the Japanese Archives have revealed that the "Bushido Code" governed the whole Japanese population. After Okinowa, the entire populace was being trained to fight to the death and kill as many Allies as possible before dying. One woman has recounted her experience of being trained as a Third Grader in how to kill Americans with a pointed bamboo stick. She said that she was told (by her teacher) that if she didn't kill at least ten Americans, she wouldn't earn the right to die. A civilian Code of Arms was issued to all "civilians" instructing them in various ways of killing Americans with common household implements. The Code, similar to the Military Code of Arms, did not include the word "surrender." The old men, women and children were also drilled in military procedures. Do these sound like "noncombatants?" And what about the approximately 100 thousand Allied Prisoners of War (mostly American) imprisoned in Japan who were told they would be executed at the first sign of invasion? Does anybody who knows of the Bataan Death March and the Rape of Nanking doubt that the Japanese would have done exactly what they threatened? Most of the Los Alamos scientists agreed that the use of the A-bomb was the right thing to do (to shorten the war) but would impose enormous demands on future generations to control this new energy source without self-destructing. They were absolutely correct and even though there have been some tense moments, we have managed to survive 56 years and I can't help but think that the demonstration of how horrific the alternatives has somehow contributed to our survival. Bomber Cheers, -Burt Pierard (59) ~ Monroe, WA ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>From: Bob Mattson (64) Re: PC @ PC At William and Mary, students tried to change the name of the school team "The Tribe" because it was supposedly insulting to local Indians, only to learn that authentic Virginia chiefs truly like the name. [Bombers] === White pride is just as valid as black pride or red pride or anyone else's pride. Racist? ===That gay pride should extend no further than your rights or my rights. Homophobe? === What does all this mean? It means that telling us what to think has evolved into telling us what to say, so telling us what to do can't be too far behind.=== Incubators for this rampant epidemic of new McCarthyism === Disavow cultural correctness with massive disobedience of rogue authority, social directives and onerous laws that weaken personal freedom === It caught my attention, please find and read "Winning the Cultural War" Charlton Heston's Speech to the Harvard Law School Forum, Feb 16, 1999. Bomber Pride, -Bob Mattson (64) ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>From: Barbara Franco Sherer (69) To: Betty Avant (69) Re: 7/15 entry in THE SANDBOX I, too, work in the medical field. I have also lost many friends to cancer, most of whom never smoked and lead relatively healthy lives. I have lived in Bellevue, Wash., for the past 25 years. Most of the people I know who have died from cancer have never even visited Richland or had any association with "the plant". I firmly believe that we live in such a stressful and toxic environment (even the good, clean NW), that more people who have no family histories are developing varieties of cancer. About the best we can all do is reduce the critical variables as best we can, i.e don't smoke, exercise, eat lots of fruits and veggies, if you drink do it moderately. One of the newer thoughts is taking a more positive outlook on things can make people feel better in general as well as reducing illness. Makes sense to me. I'm sure there will be whole new spin to elevating symposia as a result of these theories. Bombers always, -Barbara Franco Sherer (69) ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>From: Geoff Rothwell (71) Re: Cancer To: Betti Avant (69) My reading of THE SANDBOX would find this entry a little tame. My mother died of skin cancer, but I doubt that it was from anything that my father brought home from the Federal Building or exposure suffered while they lived in Pasco in 1952 (when I was conceived!). I think it was the sun's rays that did it to her, and could do it to me. Cancer is many diseases and it is up to us to educate each other about avoiding cancer, particularly skin cancer, given the intense solar radiation present in Richland. I would love to learn about alumni battles or near misses with skin cancer. See you all soon in Richland for the Class of '71 reunion. -Geoff Rothwell (71) ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Send SANDBOX entries to: mailto:the-sandbox@richlandbombers.com THE SANDBOX site: http://THE.SANDBOX.tripod.com ALL Bomber Alumni Links: http://AllBombers.tripod.com ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø ~126~